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  1. #1
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    Kikosho's Avatar
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    @Peng: I know about the differences and yes, the non-burn way does require more team synergy and technique. That can't be disputed. The fact she doesn't auto Aerial Blast just makes her another Miser's Mistress though so in that regards, Garuda is the only target that matters. Ender would have no qualms with the burn setup. ;o
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    Tyrith Peng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    @Peng: I know about the differences and yes, the non-burn way does require more team synergy and technique. That can't be disputed. The fact she doesn't auto Aerial Blast just makes her another Miser's Mistress though so in that regards, Garuda is the only target that matters. Ender would have no qualms with the burn setup. ;o
    Except the devs have clearly stated that her not auto Aerial Blasting is an unintentional bug in the fight that will be fixed in a few days time.

    I am not sure if you have completely grasped that fact.
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    Oh I do grasp it. Taking her low even with the standard setup is unintentional just as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikosho View Post
    Oh I do grasp it. Taking her low even with the standard setup is unintentional just as well.
    And yet at no point between the time my LS killed it and the time the BLM burn video was released did yoshi or any dev make a post saying it was unintentional.

    However it was only a few hours after the BLM burn video was released that yoshi made a post saying it was unintentional and was being fixed.

    And its not like they didn't have any chances to correct us, also at no point have they ever said burning mistress down before she moves is unintentional.

    So maybe you are still missing the point of why the devs find the BLM burn an exploit.
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    Fusional says something dumb, LS's mates make a rational arguement to make what he says look less dumb..... You should skip that first step.

    I, personally, think that the only part the dev team feels is an exploit is the ability to skip aerial blast completely. All the other stuff they might lump together into "good strategy". That's their choice and it sounds like they've made it. This is a group that is leaving things like PL and the rest of Garuda's mechanics alone, though, so idk how much I agree with how they label things.

    Moogle srsly needed fixed, it got fixed. Garuda srsly needs fixed, she'll be fixed. For now, while I don't like it, I'd suggest everyone take advantage of the blm burn strategy before its gone. For any other strategy, as long as she gets to AB, I don't think it can be put into the same category as the officially declared exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    Fusional says something dumb, LS's mates make a rational arguement to make what he says look less dumb..... You should skip that first step.

    I, personally, think that the only part the dev team feels is an exploit is the ability to skip aerial blast completely. All the other stuff they might lump together into "good strategy". That's their choice and it sounds like they've made it. This is a group that is leaving things like PL and the rest of Garuda's mechanics alone, though, so idk how much I agree with how they label things.

    Moogle srsly needed fixed, it got fixed. Garuda srsly needs fixed, she'll be fixed. For now, while I don't like it, I'd suggest everyone take advantage of the blm burn strategy before its gone. For any other strategy, as long as she gets to AB, I don't think it can be put into the same category as the officially declared exploit.
    Would honestly be surprised if SE had any strategy in mind at all. I am honestly under the impression they just throw crap together half the time and then let the player base figure it out. It would definitely explain why they always make videos of them fighting crap with every job in full AF and why the bard in the garuda video never had raging strike up and decided to use chameleon after shooting her 3 times with light shot among many other flaws with how they were playing their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    Would honestly be surprised if SE had any strategy in mind at all. I am honestly under the impression they just throw crap together half the time and then let the player base figure it out. It would definitely explain why they always make videos of them fighting crap with every job in full AF and why the bard in the garuda video never had raging strike up and decided to use chameleon after shooting her 3 times with light shot among many other flaws with how they were playing their jobs.
    That could be the case, or maybe they are just messing around when they make those videos so that they don't tip the playerbase off too much. Showing off the clones is one matter, showing a party composed of 3 BLM, 2 BRD, 2 WAR, and a WHM is something much more telling.
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    @Peng: I imagine because the bug was made abundantly apparent when BLMs blew it out of proportion. But I'll give you that, they didn't correct the issue then so I'm arguing on shallow ground.

    I didn't say Mistress dying before she moves was unintentional either. I said Garuda without auto Aerial Blast makes her into a Mistress fight where it becomes completely timed based.
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    Tsubaki Nakatsu
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    Anyone who still thinks SE's little "teaser" videos mean anything are delusional. We've known they mean nothing more than just to show off video footage of the new content since.....DH? Remember when they showed the Eye doing like 8k damage to the party? Remember logging in and getting hit by the blast for the very first time? Remember taking like 1k damage?

    I do.

    The same people in those videos are the same people failing to QA the fights properly which is why they always come to our plate with exploitable bugs in them. SE needs to pickup the slack in the QA department, stop acting like Bethesda, and make solid content.
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    Look at you... Just when I thought I liked Carraway more (and Fusional A LOT LESS)... Richard... you're my new favorite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard_BG View Post
    Anyone who still thinks SE's little "teaser" videos mean anything are delusional. We've known they mean nothing more than just to show off video footage of the new content since.....DH?
    Pretty sure I realized there were no strategy insights to be found within an SE video since watching them `demonstrate` how to kill Absolute Virtue by stacking PLD/WAR's with Terra staves.
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