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  1. #11
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Follow the prerequisite links here: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/I...We_Can_Kill_It for the Ifrit one. The prerequisite may already be on your quest list https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/A_Recurring_Problem,, in which case, go find Urianger in the Waking Sands.

    The other two primal fights will follow once the quest [and Ifrit (Hard)] has been completed.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    So two things i can think to add. First, check your duty finder. Sometimes people do part of these quests and then stop because they dont know about the requirements. So are any of the (hard) versions of Ifrit, Garuda, or Titan already on your list? And if so, do any of them have the green checkmark in the corner that means you already did it?

    And second, im going to attempt to re-emphasize in clear language one point. For story reasons, the scions moved. Yes, we all know this is true. But for game-play reasons, there can exist more then 1 version of the characters in the world at a time. These quests can only be started specifically with the version of the Minfilia NPC that exists in the Solar sub-instance of the Waking Sands. If you havent taken the quest yet, she will stay there waiting to get you started even though the story-version of herself has moved. This quest has come up on the forums before, and roughly half the time the problem ends up being that the poster is checking the wrong location(the one the NPC moved to) and not believing or understanding us when we try to point them to the correct one.
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  3. #13
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    Lycaon Fenrir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Forget about Thancred being at the Rising Stones. At a game level that's a different NPC and has nothing to do with the quest you should be receiving from the specific version of him who is sitting at a table at the Waking Sands.

    Are any of the Scions at the Waking Sands, other than Urianger?
    palymo who has red quesdt from me beat garuda buti cant get til i beat ifrit and cat girl but she has no quest
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  4. #14
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    Lycaon Fenrir
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Follow the prerequisite links here: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/I...We_Can_Kill_It for the Ifrit one. The prerequisite may already be on your quest list https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/A_Recurring_Problem,, in which case, go find Urianger in the Waking Sands.

    The other two primal fights will follow once the quest [and Ifrit (Hard)] has been completed.
    so yes went thru all my logs and duties nothing there and im in waking sands in solar after the scions have moved and minfila not there no one in room. when i got out solar i find urangaer, paylmo,and yersela none have quest i can get . i ve read everything I can online about this problem aND no solutions have i found i even reported it to them as a bug got no response
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by unforgiven27 View Post
    palymo who has red quesdt from me beat garuda buti cant get til i beat ifrit and cat girl but she has no quest
    Since Papalymo's quest is showing up (but Y'shtola's is not) I would guess that you DO have the Ifrit trial unlocked but have not beaten it.

    If you can't find it in your duty finder, go back to the Zahar'ak aetheryte (southern Thanalan X:35 Y:20) and look for the trial entrance glowing spot.
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  6. #16
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    Sid Bishop
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    Malboro
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    This was very frustrating to me also. it took me a few days to actually figure it out after googling it several times. But yeah you need to unlock those quest for the hard mode versions through the quest mentioned above.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by unforgiven27 View Post
    palymo who has red quesdt from me beat garuda buti cant get til i beat ifrit and cat girl but she has no quest
    Ok, this is good info. That means that you for sure did the quest with Minfilia already. When you click on Papalymo to try to accept his quest, it should tell you exactly why you dont qualify to take his quest yet. If it says something like "must complete trial bowl of embers(hard)" that means that you should already have it unlocked and just need to que in. If it says something more like "must complete duty ???" then you havent finished unlocking it yet, and working backwards through the quest steps is a good idea(which would mean going to the aetheryte location Iscah mentions). If it says something about "disciple of war/magic" then you are likely trying to pick up the quest on a crafting or gathering job and the quest doesnt allow that(similarly, a class lower then level 50 would give the error that you need to be 50+). And if the error says you need to finish a quest, then odds are you have that quest in your journal and just dont have it set as one of the 5 active ones your HuD can display.

    In case you do have it unlocked and just havent been able to find it, open the Duty Finder UI window. You want the 5th tab from the left(it goes question mark, blue cave entrance 1, blue cave entrance 2, teal scroll, red angry face 1 - angry face is the icon for Trials), then scroll the list as far down as you can. Bowl of Embers(hard) should be right above Thornmarch(hard) which you did for story while going through the patch 2.1 content.
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