Pulling wall to wall isn't fast enough?

[Ftail]

This is an offshoot of "go go go", mainly because I saw an alarming number of people supporting something in my opinion, that is toxic behavior.

I am tanking a dungeon and pulling wall to wall, and when we get to the last boss and I notice a sprout watching a cutscene. Please do not pull the boss while the sprout is mid cutscene.

"Sprouts can just teleport in and it doesn't matter if you don't wait."

Actually, during a cutscene in a dungeon you can hear boss abilities and stuff going off which will ruin the immersion. Not only can they hear this stuff going off, but it will put pressure on them to skip the cutscene, which is frankly rude.

I'm not going to let someone who pulled early die, I'll pull off them, but I will think what a rude individual that person is. When people from Japan say Westerners are selfish individuals, I think this is just one of many examples proving them right.

All I have to say is please treat others as human beings, not as nuisances that should be abused because they are a minor inconvenience.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Final bosses should lock the fight until everyone is finished with the cut scenes. Most cut scenes are half a minute or less anyway.

Also auto-scroll any dialogue during those scenes to prevent anyone from AFKing or just sitting there to grief the party. It'd only affect a handful of dungeons (Stone Vigil, maybe Baelsar's Wall or Ala Mhigo).

[DeaconMoore]

Correct, wall to wall isn't fast enough. It needs to be start to final boss. Come on already SE, enough with the invisible walls and lets gogogogo!

[Kes13a]

the unfortunate reality is that rude impatient people who only think of themselves, exist and they play video games.

this is one of those games.

yeah, I bet that "go go go" thread has a lot of people justifying being rude. they will come from many different games and they will always find reasons to justify being rude, impatient and disrespectful to others. All you can do ... is not be them.

[Izscha]

That's called decency and it applies to everyone, you wont go slow only because YOU want to be slow, that's a party thing it's as rude to be slow as to be a d1ck about going fast.
Love how if you tell someone to move it's rude, but slowing down and make people wait for your own selfish thing isn't.

[Momo_Kozuki]

New players feel rushed during cutscenes? Let make cutscenes unskipable for everyone! And increase rewards while we are at it!



Oh wait, it sounds familiar for some reasons.


But yeah, maybe make bosses untargetable until everyone has their cutscenes done viewing. I don't mind either way.

[aveyond-dreams]

I do not pull the final boss when the sprout is in a cutscene, unless the cutscene is one of the 5 minute ones like in Toto Rak. Cutscenes in instances should not last more than 10 seconds, max.

[SillyCrow]

If you're the tank, you call the shots around there. Just don't go in the arena and let the premature pullers die.

If you're a healer and the tank pulls, you can do the same thing. They can't survive on their own.

[Izscha]

Most of what you say is on-point. Then, disappointingly, you lose track right at the end:



A) Mistakes happen, consider that before branding someone as rude.
B) New / unskilled players might not understand the dichotomy between pulling early and sprouts watching cutscenes. See "A".
C) You don't know that the person who pulled early is a 'Westerner'. Brother might have just moved to Canada from South Korea... or Madagascar...or Mongolia.
D) Generalizing 'Westerners' as all the same is nonsense. Generalizations are imbecilic at best. See "C".

... and most importantly...

E) Take your own advice and treat others as humans, not nuisances that should be abused. Branding someone as 'rude' and (with a negative connotation) 'Western' isn't really upholding your own stated values, now is it? One with your values should chalk these things up to naivete or inexperience, instead of some 'rude, Western' agenda.

At the very, very least, even if that one single player was in fact rude, you should apply 'rude' to the individual alone, and realize that their country or region of origin really isn't relevant. Certainly not relevant enough to brand half the Earth's population as 'such and such'.

Isn't this obvious to you? It is to me.

/shrug

i know right? Seems like the basic weeb that do believe that Japan is the best from his hundred slice of life anime watched, they're all kind and awsome and obviously the others are rude stupid selfish "insert any insult about western world"

Japan did think like that too not so long ago, it did not end well for them maybe there is a lesson for you too in there OP.

[nebby00]

Why did you start another thread for this? If you were going to talk about this topic, you could have put it in the "gogogo" thread. Making multiple threads of the same topic is completely unnecessary, and I'm pretty sure it would make it easier to discuss certain topics if they were all in a singular thread, rather than making duplicates.