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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    If the main purpose of the Ascians was the rejoining why did they spend so much time in the source when they could of just spent all of their time on the other shards where the Warrior of Light couldn't foil their plans? If it wasn't for the fact of our awesome cat lad summoning us to the first there would of been nothing we could of done to stop it. And even if we still stopped the first. If they were doing all sorts of crazy stuff on all the other shards we would of had no way of stopping them right?
    They did do this - on the 14th world, they immediately beaten up the WoLs who barely had any power of light, except the world got plunged into darkness and creates a void. The Void killed all the inhabitants and made it a dead zone. No life can live there, only voidsent (who are hungry thirsty Aether beings). That's when they realize they can't immediately destroy a world, but slowly push it towards oblivion. To speed things up and to ensure no world have an imbalance of light/dark to the point it creates "The Void", they have to slowly tip the scales, and then have the source deal with a similar problem for the main world to absorb the shard's aspected aether. That's why they sent a couple of ascians in each shard to handle the problem. Lahabrea was sent to deal with us - an unsundered Ascian no less. It's just that, our power of light was stronger than what lahabrea can imagine at the time.

    Similar to the ShB plotline, the Ascians plunge the world of the First very close to Light, then have the main world - the source - absorb all the aspected light aether. You learn more about the Ascian's real plan if you complete all of the Role Quests and do the final Role Quest plotline - Ardbert's final party member that didn't die.

    The only problem was that they didn't expect Ardbert and the gang to kill the Ascians on the first, which resulted in tipping the world into Light - and only through Minfilia's help were they able to stay the flood. With Minfilia stopping the flood, she basically brought the world back from the brink - which allowed the Ascians time to force the Source to light. It's just... we're been growing too strong and out of their control that we stopped their plans each time at the source for them to succeed. Only through ShB's 5.0 intro plot do we learn that they eventually resorted to killing us using a "deadly poison" instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    They did do this - on the 14th world, they immediately beaten up the WoLs who barely had any power of light, except the world got plunged into darkness and creates a void. The Void killed all the inhabitants and made it a dead zone.

    No life can live there, only voidsent (who are hungry thirsty Aether beings). That's when they realize they can't immediately destroy a world, but slowly push it towards oblivion. To speed things up and to ensure no world have an imbalance of light/dark to the point it creates "The Void", they have to slowly tip the scales, and then have the source deal with a similar problem for the main world to absorb the shard's aspected aether. That's why they sent a couple of ascians in each shard to handle the problem. Lahabrea was sent to deal with us - an unsundered Ascian no less. It's just that, our power of light was stronger than what lahabrea can imagine at the time.

    Similar to the ShB plotline, the Ascians plunge the world of the First very close to Light, then have the main world - the source - absorb all the aspected light aether. You learn more about the Ascian's real plan if you complete all of the Role Quests and do the final Role Quest plotline - Ardbert's final party member that didn't die.

    The only problem was that they didn't expect Ardbert and the gang to kill the Ascians on the first, which resulted in tipping the world into Light - and only through Minfilia's help were they able to stay the flood. With Minfilia stopping the flood, she basically brought the world back from the brink - which allowed the Ascians time to force the Source to light. It's just... we're been growing too strong and out of their control that we stopped their plans each time at the source for them to succeed. Only through ShB's 5.0 intro plot do we learn that they eventually resorted to killing us using a "deadly poison" instead
    Minor correction - the 'fourteenth' world is not a Shard but actually the Source, the player's world and what was left of the original planet after the Sundering - there are thirteen Shards not fourteen (13 Shards + the Source = 14), and it was the Thirteenth Shard that fell to the Flood of Darkness and became the Void (this was the Shard Igeyorhm was responsible for, and because of her actions causing it to fall to the Flood of Darkness and thus become useless to Rejoin she felt guilt about caused her to throw in her lot with Lahabrea).

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    death of the WoL in the '8th Calamity' timeline to Black Rose was not an intentional act by the Ascians but purely accidental, such was the overpowered nature of that Calamity (it was so powerful it ruined the land even centuries later, turning much of the Source barren even centuries later), the WoL was pretty much just an accidental casualty. Although given how it's been stated in past Calamities WoLs would appear just prior to Calamities to unite the people of that time only to then 'disappear' when the actual Calamity occurs, maybe this is simply a normal state of affairs.


    I mean, the game zig-zags on to how the Ascians regard the WoL from tolerance to mild annoyance with to outright wanting to destroy them, but given other WoLs throughout history on the Source and Shards were prone to being manipulated by the Ascians just as much as others (e.g. what happened to Ardbert, the disaster on the Thirteenth), the times they showed genuine murderous intent towards the WoL was probably just because they felt the WoL could no longer be considered a useful tool and so was to be discarded and eliminated like throwing away a broken appliance - and given how meddlesome the WoL was becoming, no wonder Lahabrea declared outright "it's time for the Warrior of Light, to die." Sadly someone did die, but it was not the WoL....

    Also this thread really needs to be in the Lore section given the big spoilers....
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 10-26-2021 at 02:49 AM.