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  1. #31
    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Seraphine Rosa
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    Spriggan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    WHM.
    The job hasn't been particularly appealing to me for a long time but it just went from bad to worse.
    MP economy and easy recovery was a strong point which has been heavily nerfed. And in return they got free weaves with little to fill them and the overheal plant that encourages taking damage to trigger it on a 3mim CD.
    white mage is the worst your right of it. alot people love white mage don't understand how much damage losing thin air is gonna break white-mage into fine powder.
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  2. #32
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Character
    Waira Amarilla
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Dragoon. I'm still looking forward to it, but it was the least impressive to me. But that's only because it didn't really have or need any real substantial changes.
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  3. #33
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    Character
    Tobias Shadowmane
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The only job change I'd like for Dark Knight is one that will never happen. That's having Salted Earth proc Abyssal Drain. Basically, a lot like Black Mages Thundercloud effect. Enemies taking damage in Salted earth would have a chance to reset the cast timer on Abyssal Drain. While not great for single targets like bosses. It'll at least provide decent self sustain on larger groups of enemies. If only during the effect of Salted Earth. That is a change I'd like to see, but wont.
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  4. #34
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Machinist, from the mains saying "its a good base for later expansions to improve on" to flipflop to "its perfect as is" is both dumb and forshadowing SMN dull fate aswell.

    runner up is DRK getting utterly ignored and outclassed and lastly SCH just since its other healer cousins got better cap skills
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

  5. #35
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    zcrash970's Avatar
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    Character
    Quinton Lightblaze
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Machinist, from the mains saying "its a good base for later expansions to improve on" to flipflop to "its perfect as is" is both dumb and forshadowing SMN dull fate aswell.

    runner up is DRK getting utterly ignored and outclassed and lastly SCH just since its other healer cousins got better cap skills
    Lol nail my feelings after I leveled much in 5.0 after my casters. I just had the feeling the class was done. This is it

    Other jobs, you can think on what they could add and what they can improve upon. I didn't get that feeling from MCH. The job felt air tight in its rotation and the idea the devs wanted it to be.

    Immediately scared me when Yoshi said "smn hit it's breaking point"
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    I'm just some guy...

  6. #36
    Player
    Kyndel's Avatar
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    Character
    Kyndel Apocrifa
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    White Mage. I'm definitely switching to Sage after seeing it's changes, nerfing Thin Air is going to make the job incredibly irritating to play, it's basically just a way to get rez's off now and has lost any utility otherwise.
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  7. #37
    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    white mage is the worst your right of it. alot people love white mage don't understand how much damage losing thin air is gonna break white-mage into fine powder.
    Also Lost Seraph Strike might not works with Thin Air anymore because it only works on weaponskill...
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  8. #38
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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Hard choice, DRK is an easy one with Unmend+ and the bubbles out of Salted Earth.
    On top of keeping Dark mind and Abyssal Drain. Then after that you complain about your game having button bloat and saying "there is not enough feedback".

    But what makes me really salty is MCH void of changes.
    ACB still don't give GR/R charges.
    Flamethrower is unchanged, it's still an AFK tool for people like AFK healers.
    Wildfire is unchanged and remains an empowered Hypercharge (They could have at least gave it a trait to make it AoE.)

    And when it comes to the changes, Queen's need finisher is not even an AoE. On top of that, it will make her presence on the battlefield a bit longer and that's going to be harder to get both finisher in the party buff window.
    Also Hypercharge lack of "Bunshin Treatment", as far as I know only Blood Weapon and Hypercharge somehow avoid it.
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  9. #39
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zcrash970 View Post
    Lol nail my feelings after I leveled much in 5.0 after my casters. I just had the feeling the class was done. This is it

    Other jobs, you can think on what they could add and what they can improve upon. I didn't get that feeling from MCH. The job felt air tight in its rotation and the idea the devs wanted it to be.

    Immediately scared me when Yoshi said "smn hit it's breaking point"
    Air tight? This mentality is what lead to MCH stagnating to begin with. Can you honestly so you can think of way for MCH to improve? Because I can think of several, and serval QOL changes they simply chose to ignore because of people’s hive mind instinct. It’s not air tight it hasn’t peaked
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  10. #40
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Air tight? This mentality is what lead to MCH stagnating to begin with. Can you honestly so you can think of way for MCH to improve? Because I can think of several, and serval QOL changes they simply chose to ignore because of people’s hive mind instinct. It’s not air tight it hasn’t peaked
    I think he may have meant that a bit differently than you assume here...

    I can see MCH being "air tight" in the sense that it appears to appear that way to the devs -- as if they had completed their imagined comprehensive checklist and there's no where to go from here but towards the arbitrary.

    That's what scares me about recent developer takes on job design, of course, but I can readily imagine that being the case.
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