Thread: What job changes are you least looking forward to in 6.0?

Bard still being a visual eyesore.

Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

Bard still being a visual eyesore.

Visual? As a community I think it’s best to stop caring so much about visuals. SMN visuals are flashy but all your doing is Ruin spamming

It is not unreasonable to want a Bard that has more visual musical effects as opposed to arrow magic. Thematic confusion like this turns people off from touching the class. It might feel so fun to play, but if it looks boring, then it's pretty difficult to convince someone to go for it as opposed to something like Dancer which feels fun and looks amazing.

At least at level 90 they finally get some kind of visual song aura. That they should have gotten in ARR if not Heavensward at the earliest.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

It is not unreasonable to want a Bard that has more visual musical effects as opposed to arrow magic. Thematic confusion like this turns people off from touching the class. It might feel so fun to play, but if it looks boring, then it's pretty difficult to convince someone to go for it as opposed to something like Dancer which feels fun and looks amazing.

At least at level 90 they finally get some kind of visual song aura. That they should have gotten in ARR if not Heavensward at the earliest.

It is if your defining the job purely on visual flare alone

Two more years of Glarebroil spam.

At least we can weave into Glarebroil now.

Monk.

Monk has a rework that seems great at first, but that was also the case for Stormblood Monk and Shadowbringers Monk. And we are once again getting an unfinished rework that is missing core, integral parts.

1. Anatman still does not do anything of any value whatsoever
2. Basically every single OGCD was rolled into the Blitz system and there are no replacements
3. Tornado Kick is being removed ENTIRELY at level 90, for a less pretty skill
4. You still do your level 50 rotation all day, just with poor backflips inbetween.
5. Their one source of OGCD SPam will be Forbidden Chakra during Brotherhood, which will proc between every Monk GCD.
6. The latter change makes monk a poor solo job.
7. All the buff timings do not line up with Monk's strongest moments, or raid wide buff windows.
8. First-Time-Ultimate Clearers on Monk already said that it looks like it will need 25 seconds of pre-pull buffing to make the buffs line up.
9. Monk losing Shoulder Tackle Exacerbates the lack of OGCDs. The teleports are a bandaid.
10. Tornado Kick going away is such a travesty I will list it twice.
11. Actually I will list Tornado Kick being removed thrice.
12. Riddle of the Wind does nothing but buff your autoattacks. Complete meme skill.
13. All your level 50 rotation skills still look exactly as they did five years ago. No exceptions. Compare to Dragoon or anyone else really.
14. The Beast Chakra abilities are AoEs, while the actual AoE buttons don't give you the buffs. Random, and pointless.
15. Fist stances going away just takes away gameplay variety on Monk.

That's a long list just for issues I can tell at a glance without having been a Monk main for long, or ever really. I only played it for a few months since the half rework in Shadowbringers.

Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina

Bard still being a visual eyesore.

funny thing i dont mind mch jumping, but brd Burst shot ugh...

SE, let me use heavy shot anim instead , and let mch too use old skills instead of frogging around

Originally Posted by Sold0ut

Monk.

Monk has a rework that seems great at first, but that was also the case for Stormblood Monk and Shadowbringers Monk.

To be fair, Shadowbringers Monk never looked good.

"Yay, we get a 3rd AoE!" (Guess we're losing effective potency on Rockbreaker and therefore any reason to use Perfect Balance for burst AoE.)
"Yay, we get an AoE spender!" (Guess we're no longer getting Chakra proc chances per enemy hit during Brotherhood.)
"Yay, we get a... immobile GL builder?" (Guess PB's getting nerfed and/or we're losing RoW.)

All the buff timings do not line up with Monk's strongest moments, or raid wide buff windows.

This doesn't actually annoy me, so long as we're balanced accordingly, as it really just means we'd be thereby slightly overbalanced in low-man scenarios and, by nature of being balanced around desync, less screwed over by a raid buffer dying.

Fist stances going away just takes away gameplay variety on Monk.

Agreed. I could see FoF going away, as it has no reason to exist so long as one can turn off FoW or FoE, while FoW and FoE each inflict a small damage penalty for a greater than current movement speed or mitigation bonus.

All the tanks seem fine to me with the exception of DRK, I do not look forward to his non-existent changes. Bard and machinist look almost the same to me so there is nothing exciting there. I also find scholars extremely boring to play and I don't find new changes for Astro interesting.

Not look forward to GNB having even more continuation and stuff to squeeze in no mercy while having to move the boss or kitchen sink CDs during it.