Gladiator lvl 80 challenge

[hydralus]

I don't really care about all that. I just think it's weird to call it a challenge when it's not. It vastly simplifies the class design and just makes things die slower (You'll be doing somewhere around 40% less damage to mobs just because you're missing your second AoE at level 40 onward so it's hardly insubstantial). Now if you tried to get to floor 200 of POTD as a GLD now that's a freakin' challenge right there.

As you've said there's no discernible difference between a gimped tank and a shit tank. It's nothing special.

[Nethereal]

Either this was bait or my man just got reality checked so hard they had a midlife crisis cause I ain't seeing any replies.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

I would've kicked you in every single dungeon, trial and raid.
Most players will unlock their job at 30 because its something they look forward to, now you have a few sprouts who tunnel vision this and dont know about jobs, these will receive info in Hauke. 95% of them will receive this positive and do their jobs.

Now you have a few strugglers who do it in their 40s and those ... if sprouts, you remind and move through the dungeon with them, if the person however has a 80 their out, why would you allow someone to grief?

On that note if your 50+ it doesnt matter if your a sprout, returner or anything if you dont have a soulstone, you requeue and hope for more luck or unlock your job. This has nothing to do with being "toxic".

The game intends you to unlock these things and reminds you and if you have "msq progress" on your UI it shows you full time that theres a quest. Challenges are usually putting the stress on yourself to prove your own skill.

And here we have what you did, which was basically driving on the wrong side of the road because no one is allowed to tell you what to do or they would be labelled toxic, hoping that every single car adjusts to you and your special needs.

Congratulations for every single healer you met for clearing the troll tank challenge.

You however ... In best case your a troll ... lets hope for that.

[Neri]

What's so challenging about reaching 80 as a base class? You could just FATE the whole thing without sabotaging other people to 80 in anyway.

[Keotastrophe]

Is this an out of season April Fools' joke?

[Alacran]

Yeah, this "challenge" should not be encouraged. Hope others don't get this waste of time in their heads & force others to comply.

[Rongway]

i mean if he knew what he was doing wouldn't really putting any stress on healers or w/e
GLD still gets sentinal,all the role skills
only defensive tool hes missing is hallowed ground and sheltron,
and 95% of PLD players let hallowed ground collect dust in dungeons anyway and sheltron isn't anything to write home about.

like i said if he knew what he was doing it just make the run a little slower not harder for others you dont lose stats without a job stone.

Missing:

• Spirits Within - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Sheltron - lower healer DPS due to having to babysit more: party takes longer to kill things
• Prominence - lower AoE DPS: party takes longer to kill trash
• Cover - no major loss
• Hallowed Ground - lower healer DPS due to having to babysit more: party takes longer to kill things
• Goring Blade - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Divine Veil - probably no major loss, as having it probably won't change how many AoE heals the healer has to cast
• Clemency - loss depends on who you ask...Clemency itself is a DPS loss over letting a healer use something better on you though
• Royal Authority - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Intervention - probably no major loss
• Holy Spirit - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Requiescat - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Passage of Arms - no major loss
• Holy Circle - lower AoE DPS: party takes longer to kill trash
• Intervene - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things
• Atonement - lower DPS: party takes longer to kill things

Twelve out of the sixteen things on this list result in "party takes longer" by their absence. Not just one thing. Twelve.

This is a team game, and subjecting 3/7/23 other people to OP's purposefully bad decisions is not "a challenge"; it is inconsiderate and deserving of a lockout just for the attempt, opportunistic in the case the party for some reason doesn't kick you, and egotistical in either case.

[brackpapper]

I think it's funny that someone bothered to take the time to do this. When I was a new player within the past two years I thought the class/job distinction was strange because it seemed so pointless. As I learned more about the changes to the game over time I thought it interesting that it was a vestige of a system where choice between more flexible class and a specialized job was part of the design. Of course as little of a choice as it is now, I realized it was too integrated in the story and early game scenario to justify doing away with entirely.

As someone who was sad upon being forced to become a bard, I respect whoever is willing to put up with tons of indignant people yelling at them in order to finish this experiment.

[TaleraRistain]

I'm really curious about this. What was your average time in dungeons?

If you popped into mine when I was on WHM I'd just be like, let's do this.

It is good you acknowledge that others have the right to votekick, but yes, they don't need to do it with the sort of commentary you describe.

[EzekielBook]

Whoa. I haven't seen people get this angry outside of the WoW forums in a long time.

I hear people saying how the DF dungeons are really easy, about how healers get bored with very little to do, about how it's all rush-rush-rush. And then someone chooses a perfectly legal in-game path, one that makes life a little more interesting for them, while not being too far out of line for anyone else, and people are jumping on them.

There are enough players in the game that you'll likely never encounter someone else doing this. Surely you can cut the one person who does do it a little slack?

Besides, the Paladin story line is not fun (to say the least). If there were a class where you would want to skip it, that'd be it.