Results 1 to 10 of 21

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Summoner mobility is overall pretty good. You have only 1.5sec cast times so you can slidecast after 1 second and move 1.5sec after each cast like Astro now.
    While that's pretty good for weaving, I'd worry it would have "the red mage" problem - where sure dualcast is great for getting a bit of mobility, but starts to suck if you need to move for more than a GCD.

    Whereas current ruin 4 gives you 8 GCDs of free movement every minute (separate from DWT and FBT), and while you do want to have 4 stacks going into bahamut, it's otherwise pretty free about how you use it. So I guess what I'm wondering is if the new summoner will get somewhere equivalent to 8 GCDs mobility per minute that you don't need to be in a specific primal phase for, or if you'll always have to save it for any time you might need more than a GCD or two's worth of movement...
    (0)
    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 10-23-2021 at 09:55 PM.

  2. #2
    Player
    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Eileen White
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    While that's pretty good for weaving, I'd worry it would have "the red mage" problem - where sure dualcast is great for getting a bit of mobility, but starts to suck if you need to move for more than a GCD.

    Whereas current ruin 4 gives you 8 GCDs of free movement every minute (separate from DWT and FBT), and while you do want to have 4 stacks going into bahamut, it's otherwise pretty free about how you use it. So I guess what I'm wondering is if the new summoner will get somewhere equivalent to 8 GCDs mobility per minute that you don't need to be in a specific primal phase for, or if you'll always have to save it for any time you might need more than a GCD or two's worth of movement...
    From what I read about the SMN abilities in general, it seems more like your Attunements are what give you your mobility going into EW, similar to how Egis and Ruin 4 did. I think generally they were playing with this kind of system with Phoenix to see if it was feasible to work with before changing it up after 5.2 with the Egi Rework during Titan Savage days.
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    Equitable_Remedy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    917
    Character
    Eristede Kell
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    but starts to suck if you need to move for more than a GCD.
    This is called "playing a caster."

    Join us on #TeamMelee, brother!
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    Risvertasashi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    4,706
    Character
    Makani Risvertasashi
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    This is called "playing a caster."

    Join us on #TeamMelee, brother!
    Sorry, I'll always be some kind of ranged at heart. If SMN ends up too hardcasty, I'll just go back to physical ranged.

    But it sounds like there won't be too much of it, so there is yet hope.
    (0)