Summoner is a Final Fantasy 14 summoner (not a warlock wow clone)

[Taranok]

Yeah, of course, but we had two demi oGCDs and we lost one after the Media Tour. What's the point of playing SMN if I get less lasers?

That being said, yes, but we already knew it. There's no mechanic and we didn't need to get our hands on new SMN to confirm it.

Now, now hear me out. Tri-disaster is a mini-laser, and you get literal back to back deathflare/akh morn lasers. As in it's a rapid fire laser of doom.

[rewd]

Now, now hear me out. Tri-disaster is a mini-laser, and you get literal back to back deathflare/akh morn lasers. As in it's a rapid fire laser of doom.

Yeah but... We had back to back Deathflare and Morn and another Morn later

And actually, thinking about this made me remember how underwhelming Phoenix feels now. Rekindle is whatever and I miss the 1-2 combo, a lot.

[Bonkleberry]

I came to the forums today to touch on this exact issue. SMN compared to any other job feels incomplete and simple. I have buttons to press for Single Target and buttons for Multi-Target. I have no combos, really, I am just counting how many casts I am making and being cautious of the Ifrit phase.

[Taranok]

It's truly a class of different tempos and cadences now. I feel it's missing something but mostly just needs to have this new gimmick refined moreso than specifically scrapped.

[rewd]

I came to the forums today to touch on this exact issue. SMN compared to any other job feels incomplete and simple. I have buttons to press for Single Target and buttons for Multi-Target. I have no combos, really, I am just counting how many casts I am making and being cautious of the Ifrit phase.

Level 80 SMN feels so incomplete and it is so painful. I did a run of Paglth'an and the job felt so boring and uneventful.

It will get get better at level 86 (which is too late), but even then...

[Dyvid]

Honestly, it feels very very basic. Same level of play at level 50 as it is at 80.

You do your Trance then spam ruin for 15 seconds, pick a Primal and spam either single target or AoE, repeat. Toss in a few ED and Fester for good measure. Lv. 86 only adds Deathflare button to the mix but no super change there. Ruin Mage 2.0 in my opinion.

Carbuncle is useless now and keeping "Devotion" on carbuncle only compounded the issue we have had for four years now because we can't use it during Demi or Primal states.

[Warlyx]

im fairly sure that demis will get the old phoenix treatment , and that elemental summons maybe gain a 3rd skill or somekind of interaction down the road , the job change is in the right direction but feel a bit "barebones" tbh .

its fun? yes
its cool? yes

will the honeymoon last? ...who knows.

[Taranok]

So, can confirm you can unintentionally clip searing light without intending or trying to.

Fantastic. Additional flaws I've noticed. Ruby/Topaz carbuncle/egi gems are hilariously unreliable at AoE. They have a really short radius AoE but they basically run to max melee and fire it with whatever mob you targeted, meaning its AoE often hits 1-3 targets instead of the entire group. Garuda/emerald's fine though, that's actually Garuda's enkindle, centered on target.

[AlphaRain]

Sooner or later, Levi, Shiva and Alex will be here (if by 2030).

[ChazNatlo]

Sooner or later, Levi, Shiva and Alex will be here (if by 2030).

I'd assume Levi, Shiva, and Ramuh. Hopefully with their own mechanics to spice things up, rather than the fear of Ice Ifrit, water Garuda, and Lightning Titan. (Not the least because Ramuh doesn't logically play anything like Titan, though that may be why they made the nigh incomprehensible choice of making Titan the quick movement weaving summon)