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    Game Theory <white-mage suggestions for spells>

    I do not know why I should have to explain what a game suggestion is. but it seems vast majority of forums. think that my white-mage suggests are indeed. what squire-enix is actually gonna do it. no

    Please note these are ability theories that are different the dps and healing. a third opinion you can say. another responsibility . we need think outside the box. try something new.

    New Role

    Brand - Place Brand on the target this heal nearby targets around the target healing all for 300 potency with radius of the heal is dependant on size of the monster your fighting. this is triggered however when other healer in the party. the other healer in your 8 man party have cast single target dps ability to trigger Brand and deal critical damage. once brand is triggered its is consumed all targets effect by the heal deals 3-5% more damage for 8-10 seconds. 120 cool-down brand is new concept that requires teamwork to function. watch mmorpgs should welcome abilities focus on teamwork.

    Holy II - Instant Cast Holy - Deals 120 potency damage - to all targets (60 cd)
    additional effect: places dia on all targets effected. Duration 30 seconds
    1 lily or 1200-1500 MP

    Lily bloom - consumes all existing lily bells. are massive heal over time potency 100 per each lily consumed for 25 seconds radius is all those close to lilybell when it popped

    Double-Cast - Allows you cast single spell twice without paying extra cost in MP. however you sacrifice your ability to crit with them

    Double + Miseries
    Double + Assize
    Double + any aoe

    Traits - Overgrowth - dia spells cause target deal 3-5% less damage but regan spells casts target gain 5% direct hit or either 5% crit.
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    This is going to end well....
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    I am going to conced that Double-cast actually has merit as a skill. Not much merit, but there is an interesting idea there. Also, it can't work on Assize since that's an ability, not spell. If it was an oGCD Lily ability that duplicated your last healing cast (not that that much healing is actually necessary in most content) and stored it for later, that could lead to some interesting ideas, kinda like SAMs double Midare button.

    Everything else though is a hot mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    I do not know why I should have to explain what a game suggestion is. but it seems vast majority of forums. think that my white-mage suggests are indeed. what squire-enix is actually gonna do it. no
    With all due respect, the official forums are the only avenue to give feedback to the developers (ostensibly). If you dont think your ideas could be feasibly or even realistically implemented, this is not the place to post them.

    Theyre not meant to be social forums, nor they are for spitballing fun what-ifs. There are plenty of other online spaces for this kind of stuff.

    Please try to keep discussion in these forums productive.
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    I think the issue is lack of disclaimers they are suggestions. You recent post didn't and the title was "Future White Mage Abilities".

    Prior to this your post "New White Mage abilities - 100% tr" had:

    - The title

    - "these are spoilers. and most likely be subject to change before endwalker"

    And that isn't seen as "suggestions".

    There is a pretty useful tool on your character profile to post blog entries. You can post there and people interested in what you have to say can read it. It's pretty perfect for what you are posting.
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    The immediate issue I see is Double Cast - this is stealing form the RDM's identity. The ability to use both white and black magic and using doublecast to make up for the lack of raw power is the whole reason Red Mage is worth investing in when it shows up in most of its appearances. You're asking for speed casting, the signature of RDM, for a power caster like WHM. It makes very little sense for an MMO - the fact that you could give other mages doublecast in games like FF5 and FFTA are why Red Mage became train-and-dump in those games. It'd be bad design for 14.

    Also... why buffs? Like, we WHMs are stupid strong healers. Those suggestions are complete overkill.

    Just give me a water spell that I can juggle between Aeroes and Stone spells and I'll be happy since it completes the druid trio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    I do not know why I should have to explain what a game suggestion is. but it seems vast majority of forums. think that my white-mage suggests are indeed. what squire-enix is actually gonna do it. no
    You made a thread about EW WHM abilities during the Media Tour, claimed what you posted was 100% true spoilers, and people called you out when you refused to give credit to any source, because no one is truly stupid enough to post actual leaks on the official forums.

    You also made a recent "Future White Mage Abilities" post that had no mention of speculation of any sort as well.

    If anyone actually believes that your ridiculous threads are what SE will do, it's because you are NOT claiming that they are speculations in the first place. Maybe be a little more self-aware of your threads before you assume why people fall for your stuff.

    As for the suggestions on this thread, all "flashy and engaging" and unbalanced as hell. Just like Every. Other. Thread. You. Made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doru_Nintendan View Post
    You made a thread about EW WHM abilities during the Media Tour, claimed what you posted was 100% true spoilers, and people called you out when you refused to give credit to any source, because no one is truly stupid enough to post actual leaks on the official forums.

    You also made a recent "Future White Mage Abilities" post that had no mention of speculation of any sort as well.

    If anyone actually believes that your ridiculous threads are what SE will do, it's because you are NOT claiming that they are speculations in the first place. Maybe be a little more self-aware of your threads before you assume why people fall for your stuff.

    As for the suggestions on this thread, all "flashy and engaging" and unbalanced as hell. Just like Every. Other. Thread. You. Made.
    Actually they was gonna do all of them but it changed every heard subject to change. pitch of salt. most of that stuff was all gonna happen but they changed it. remade lilybell. they took away water spell. but i told you they took away fluid aura and they did. they added aquaviel watch is defensive cooldown target watch i was right. getting name wrong isn't big deal it still same thing. they did say in interveiw that holy may effect lilies i only quote yoshi p said himself during interveiw but then desided to change it. dude like seriously don't like my ideas and suggestions there ignore button. you have power to not read. no ones forcing you be toxic just saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    I do not know why I should have to explain what a game suggestion is. but it seems vast majority of forums. think that my white-mage suggests are indeed. what squire-enix is actually gonna do it. no
    People in these forums are aware of what a suggestion is; the problem is that you misleadingly presented your personal preferences as factual multiple times in the past and have been pretty aggressive about it as well.

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    The following includes a few quotes from your misleadingly titled "New White Mage abilities - 100% tru" thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    these are spoilers. and most likely be subject to change before endwalker
    Saying that your suggestions are spoilers is claiming them as facts, not just personal guesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    just wait until endwalker see if am fake news or not
    This was made in response to someone who expressed skepticism with whether you were presenting fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    well found some proof. wanna keep questioning me.
    And what proof? You never replied with what that was. Again, presenting things as fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    Its real. just look towards endwalker. please
    False; they ultimately weren't real. This was a misleading comment made in response to me.

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    You also made some aggressive replies, usually in response to people politely asking for a source for what you presented as factual...

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    what should be deleted is fact how toxic/salty your being. people get banned on this threads/forums doing lot less then you do mind you. might want try be little nicer. less hostile. i wouldn't want anything to happen to your forum posting rights <3
    This sounds like a threat, and you also insulted the person.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    I've better things to do with my time. wasting it agrueing with people who clearly want start a fight. wanting me say something most likely get banned for.
    This is provocative language when someone was just politely asking for a credible source.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    you should know the awnser to that
    You were the one claiming that your suggestions were actually proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    sighs really
    This was in response to a politely worded comment that I left: "Do you have linkable proof for all these supposed leaks, or is this just speculation?" You didn't answer the question and were instead rude toward me for no reason.

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    You never apologized for the purposeful misinformation and passive-aggressive behavior, and you never gave a source (not even one that ended up being unreliable) for your supposed information. Heck, you even double-downed on misinformation earlier in this very thread. This is why some people are understandably uncomfortable.

    I hope these repeatedly spammed threads are moderated, and thanks to any moderators who take action.
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    If your expecting an apology your not getting one. never. but sure be my guest to flame me every post you make. im better person and just ignore whatever apply you deside make. no difference to me. again let me state i pay my own sub. ive right make topics like everyone else. if you can't keep things civil and want bring up something that was addressed 10 or so days ago. then it isn't me that the issue. its you guys.
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