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    Random fps drops till its impossible to play

    Hello, while playing this game, randomly in any location (city, raid, dungeon) i get sudden fps drops by chunks of ~30-40 fps then its continues with maximum fps being dropping more till its impossible to play
    I have i5 4570, 1650 and 16gb ram with 60-90 fps in raids/alliance raids on standart high settings and easy 100+ on low. In any other games especially cpu/gpu heavy like mhw or doom eternal i have not experienced this kind of problem (esp mhw with easy 50-80 fps with some high settings + dx12 on).
    There are none programs that "would" try to interfere with ff14 client while this happening and the only thing that i can see in task manager is that ff14 consumes way more cpu than usual (which is aswell random +10-40%)
    I have tried to play with settings especially windowed/no border/full screen but it doesnt matter this will happen at complete random (either not happen at all for hours or will keep happening in a span of hour). Also i have tried to roll back nvidia drivers but it didnt helped.
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    Good morning and thank you for posting in the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums


    Does this issue occur if the resolution of the game is lowered? Can you submit a Final Fantasy XIV system report? Simply go to the 'Config' option on the Final Fantasy XIV launcher and to the right of 'System Information' click on 'Display.'

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    Also yes i have tried to play game with different resolutions (1920x1080 or 1600x900) it doesnt matter (game sort of "recovers" fps when changing instances (like leaving dungeon or tp out) BUT fps will drop in same manner again)
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    I still expirience this issue. So far the only thing i noticed: strict 60 fps setting greatly reduces chances of this happening while playing game but still sometimes this thing occurs.
    I dont mind restarting game right now cause there is no queue on server i play.
    But i feel like its more an engine bug (considering what i have read about playing with 60+ fps in ff14) and i fear that this issue will persist in Endwalker and with that i wont be able to do raids sometimes.
    I hope theres still solution to this.
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    Your nVidia graphics card drivers are way out of date
    SYSTEM_GRAPHICS_DRIVER_DATE 11/22/2020 03:00:00

    Head over to nVidia's website and download the current drivers for your GTX 1650.
    Then Google search for the utility called "DDU", download and run it, which removes video card drivers/settings/registries completely, that helps correct issues with different revisions and versions of drivers orphaned or conflicting on a computer causing issues, then install the new drivers you downloaded.

    Another thing to check is the CPU performance and temperatures. A Core i5 4th-gen CPU is fairly old, if it is also in an old computer, the thermal compound on the heat sink may have broken down/dried out and is not transferring heat as efficiently as the system needs. An overheated CPU slows itself down, directly hitting performance in gaming.
    Google search for HWMonitor, download and run it in the background during a gaming session to see what the temperatures reached and what the CPU performance did while gaming.
    If the CPU gets too hot (over 90c) and the clock frequency drops low, then open up the computer to see what is causing the CPU to not be able to shed heat per requirements.
    As I said, look for bad thermal compound and also check for proper airflow, dirty heat sinks and fans, and loose heat sinks.

    Also, FF14 has been known to have issues in some cases when not installed on the OS drive.
    If you have room on your OS drive, install the game client there.
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    Last edited by Kirika-; 11-25-2021 at 11:46 PM.

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    I have did rollback of nvidia drivers and windows 10 just to see if its just driver issue or windows update issue (it is not) and tried to do clean install of nvidia driver it does not matter
    I have did thermal replace like last year and from my expirience cpu temp was never above 50-55 in any game ever (yes its slow intel cpu that doesnt heat at all), from just CPU usage ff14 is 30-50% its not like mhw that eats 80% on 1080p and high settings (and still playable 50+ fps without similar bug)

    The only thing i can try here is moving ff14 to SSD with OS
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    Last edited by Stasya; 11-26-2021 at 01:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    tried to do clean install of nvidia driver it does not matter
    If you used the "Perform clean install" option via the nVidia drivers installer, that rarely cleans out orphaned/bugged/corrupted files and registry settings.
    That is why I recommend using DDU.
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