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  1. #61
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    Luluna's Avatar
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    Luluna Eve
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    Louisoix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I love the trust system best thing for me personally. I like my own company a lot of the time so it suits me, I enjoy not rushing and enjoying my own pace.

    The trust would be great if expanded and the game has enough players now for those who want to team up and those who do not.
    (5)

  2. #62
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    Sindyr Ashreynason
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The trust system is being worked on so it can cover previous content, it just takes time.
    This is the first I’d heard of this (a big hope of mine) being acknowledged in a context apparently attached to a dev comment!

    When was this said and OMG it can’t come soon enough!

    Dungeons are fun, people aren’t always fun, and the sub ticks on even when people aren’t desired, so “owning one’s time” via trusts has become my condition to remain subbed and I want trusts EVERYWHERE!
    (2)

  3. #63
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    nighttimebunny's Avatar
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    Winter Stardust
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    Adamantoise
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Yes please! Squadrons are nowhere near as streamlined and good. A lot of dungeons are actually terrible to run with them but trusts are amazing. Much more immersive and I just feel relaxed during it.
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  4. #64
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    Shironeko_Narunyan's Avatar
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
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    I'd have expected a bit more creativity at least. Barely 1 out of 10 for you.
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    Can I get a rating next
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  6. #66
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    Can I get a rating next
    Nope, all out of ratings tonight
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  7. #67
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    Clicked's Avatar
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    Edge Vice
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 83
    We are getting trust support for Stormblood in the future. I don't know if ARR/HW will get it because the Squadron system covers that.

    SE is thinking about the long term of this game. Over time there will be massive content bloat and the player base will one day begin to shrink at the same time. It only makes sense in order to keep older content alive to have NPCs help you solo the content.

    With the end of the current story arc happening in Endwalker, I can see a future where new players have a sped up version of the MSQ where basically all of the filler quests are replaced with a cutscene that summarizes what happens, and they only participate in key plot moments + dungeons with NPCs. That way you won't have to play 500 hours of an older storyline to catch up to your friends doing 10.0 content and they won't have long queue times because the player base is stretched too thin over the variety of content to help new players catch up.
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  8. #68
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Trust is cool, but going back to add on up to 60 some dungeons seems a waste of resources, unless this somehow involves refining squadrons in the process and the expansion of Grand Company activities. That's who you would have in a lot of those older dungeons anyway, as other characters were off doing other things. I can't see them going all the way back on Trusts because a lot of the starter dungeons are really easy and just better done with people.
    Honestly, the biggest reason I can see for expanding Trust content back into previous expansions -- aside from the aforementioned "running a dungeon at least once with your NPC companions makes it feel less like they abandon you at every battle" narrative aspect -- is that leveling DPS in dungeons via Trust is probably, in some cases, still faster even with the slow speed of Trusts than waiting in DPS queues is. Having just finished leveling my last jobs to 80, boy did I have some lengthy queue times on those last few DPS jobs. If I were going through stuff for the first time as a DPS, and so couldn't have taken the option of Heaven-on-High as a level-grind method through the Stormblood level range, I can see how I'd love being able to unblock MSQ progression when I hit a dungeon and would otherwise need to wait in a DPS queue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  9. #69
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    Sindyr Ashreynason
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nighttimebunny View Post
    Squadrons are nowhere near as streamlined and good. A lot of dungeons are actually terrible to run with them
    They were great for any job that can take the hit of being the target of every targeted mechanic and/or the first few entire waves of vault trash. I gave up when it came to squishy ranged DPS and literally those jobs are parked now in the 50's and 60's waiting for the future trust support mentioned in this thread haha.
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  10. #70
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nighttimebunny View Post
    Yes please! Squadrons are nowhere near as streamlined and good. A lot of dungeons are actually terrible to run with them but trusts are amazing. Much more immersive and I just feel relaxed during it.
    Squadrons are certainly not as smart, or role play fun, to use- but I do feel it is a bit inaccurate, comparatively speaking at least, to say they're not as good. Squadrons, when properly picked jobs and tactics, are much stronger than trusts even being able to complete content FASTER than even players in DF lol. They're one of the best ways to get exp during the frame that squadrons are actually useable.

    Unless by good you just meant you had more fun with them due to them being smarter and far better role play value- then I agree lol. But in terms of strength, comparatively, squadrons are MUCH better than trusts if you invest them correctly. Also one of the few things I wish trusts had which was a more interesting investment system (rather than exp gates that they have currently which only act as a gate and no other benefit of investment).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-22-2021 at 12:38 PM.

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