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    Expand trusts to cover previous content!

    Hello, just hit Shadowbringers yesterday and did my first trust.

    Oh, my, god. This is the best feature I've ever tried in a game. I get to run content with npc's that I have more connection with that xArthas lalaX from whatever server that I will never see again and I can run the content at my own pace. Actually check treasure chests without feeling rushed and learn the mechanics at my own pace. It's amazing.

    I know squads are a thing but trusts seem so much better. Please retroactively apply this feature to previous content. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Hello, just hit Shadowbringers yesterday and did my first trust.

    Oh, my, god. This is the best feature I've ever tried in a game. I get to run content with npc's that I have more connection with that xArthas lalaX from whatever server that I will never see again and I can run the content at my own pace. Actually check treasure chests without feeling rushed and learn the mechanics at my own pace. It's amazing.

    I know squads are a thing but trusts seem so much better. Please retroactively apply this feature to previous content. Thank you.
    I’m all for this. Let players learn new classes at their own pace in a comfortable setting.
    I’d just like for a first time completion in trusts not unlock it in a persons roulette. Clear it with a group before being tossed in roulette with others
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I’m all for this. Let players learn new classes at their own pace in a comfortable setting.
    I’d just like for a first time completion in trusts not unlock it in a persons roulette. Clear it with a group before being tossed in roulette with others
    Not sure I understand. It automatically unlocks to queue with players if you choose to do so, why would this be any different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Not sure I understand. It automatically unlocks to queue with players if you choose to do so, why would this be any different?
    Ok I’ll elaborate. I don’t see trusts as inherently bad. There are many benefits to trusts. Learning mechanics. Testing out classes at higher levels, figuring out the rotations. Avoiding the general community if thats your thing.
    Trust play is vastly different than community play. Bigger pulls. Need for mitigation due to bigger pulls. Higher healing. Aoe rotations are a must. Ive seen arguments on these forums stating trusts, with the slow pace and single pulls is how the devs intended for people to play (lol).
    So all I’m suggesting, is yes, while it would unlock a direct queue for said duty. I’d like to see it not unlock it to pop up in roulettes, where you get bonus’ for playing the content until a person has played through it with actual players. Cleared the duty with the community and not npcs.
    Not saying its a must to expand trusts. Just my own personal preference
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    rather on the fence on this one.

    sure, being able to essentially "solo" everything with a trust would be nice I guess, at that point makes it a single player game. I mean, I do get it, people are unpredictable and have varying skill levels, and will never complain if you want to either avoid tanking or healing.

    but what does it actually teach you about playing well (or better) with others?
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    The trust system is being worked on so it can cover previous content, it just takes time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    rather on the fence on this one.

    sure, being able to essentially "solo" everything with a trust would be nice I guess, at that point makes it a single player game. I mean, I do get it, people are unpredictable and have varying skill levels, and will never complain if you want to either avoid tanking or healing.

    but what does it actually teach you about playing well (or better) with others?
    I wouldn't claim that it does. But my level of fun increased exponentially because I felt like I wasn't being rushed. Didn't have to use sprint a single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I wouldn't claim that it does. But my level of fun increased exponentially because I felt like I wasn't being rushed. Didn't have to use sprint a single time.
    There are several threads talking about this already. Trusts are pretty good for afking though (apparently), I'll give them that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Expand trusts to cover previous content!
    Somewhere in the recent wave of interviews, Yoshi P said that in 6.0 the Trusts would cover all Endwalker dungeons.
    But before 6.1 he was going to talk about his plans to expand the system and his thoughts on the possibility of applying it to older content.
    I'm not sure if that's mainly the stormblood stuff (as Squadrons can't go that far, and Trusts weren't added then) or what, but it sounds like something is in the works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    I’d just like for a first time completion in trusts not unlock it in a persons roulette. Clear it with a group before being tossed in roulette with others
    I disagree. It's normal to be new at one point or another and other players should be accommodating and not telling them to play someplace else with AI before allowed to play with others. A very backwards logic for an MMO.
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