Do You Think FF XIV Will Start Getting The Hate WoW Gets Because of The Cash Shop?

[MoofiaBossVal]

WoW's fandom hates the cash shop because they are overall older. They grew up in a time before Oblivion horse armor DLC was the norm. They saw the celestial steed added as a $25 mount and fought against it. On another WoW fan forum I post on (and even on the official WoW forums), FFXIV's cash shop is a hot topic of contention among other WoW players discussing FFXIV.

FFXIV's fandom is overall younger. They came into gaming at a time when DLC was normalized. Hence why you don't see much debate.

I don't think the overall opinion regarding FFXIV's cash shop will change. At the end of the day, FFXIV just doesn't appeal to the average WoW player. Most WoW players aren't switching to FFXIV. They're dropping out of the MMO genre entirely because there is no other game with the same appeal. The people who are making the switch are too few in number and will just be a vocal minority.

Also, as aforementioned, Blizzard's PR has been absolutely terrible over the past several years. On top of the game being bad and unfun to play, on top of Blizzard mocking their customers, you have the cash shop, so seeing a new mount being added is another straw that is breaking the camel's back for many people. It was really bad during WoD when you had mounts that were associated with factions being added to the cash shop, rather than being unlocked as a part of that faction's reputation system as was expected. (Imagine if the Beast Tribe mounts were only obtainable from the cash shop, despite the fact you did daily quests using them and saw the tribe you were doing quests for was using those mounts in cutscenes). FFXIV on the other hand generally has good PR and doesn't alienate their customers.

[ItMe]

Do You Think FF XIV Will Start Getting The Hate WoW Gets Because of The Cash Shop?

Real question, did something bring this question about?
Maybe I'm just getting too caught up with the specifics of the wording, but everyone already has their own opinions on the cash shop. Did something happen that might "start getting hate?" Did something about the cash shop change?

[Ronduwil]

You can buy a WoW token for real money and sell it for ingame gold. This is legalized RMT. Such a thing does not exist in FF14. Everything you buy in the cash shop is not sellable for Gil ingame. But yes, the amount of things you can buy in the mogry station is big.

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[kaynide]

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[Sotaris]

WoW's fandom hates the cash shop because they are overall older. They grew up in a time before Oblivion horse armor DLC was the norm. They saw the celestial steed added as a $25 mount and fought against it. On another WoW fan forum I post on (and even on the official WoW forums), FFXIV's cash shop is a hot topic of contention among other WoW players discussing FFXIV.

FFXIV's fandom is overall younger. They came into gaming at a time when DLC was normalized. Hence why you don't see much debate.

I don't think the overall opinion regarding FFXIV's cash shop will change. At the end of the day, FFXIV just doesn't appeal to the average WoW player. Most WoW players aren't switching to FFXIV. They're dropping out of the MMO genre entirely because there is no other game with the same appeal. The people who are making the switch are too few in number and will just be a vocal minority.

Also, as aforementioned, Blizzard's PR has been absolutely terrible over the past several years. On top of the game being bad and unfun to play, on top of Blizzard mocking their customers, you have the cash shop, so seeing a new mount being added is another straw that is breaking the camel's back for many people. It was really bad during WoD when you had mounts that were associated with factions being added to the cash shop, rather than being unlocked as a part of that faction's reputation system as was expected. (Imagine if the Beast Tribe mounts were only obtainable from the cash shop, despite the fact you did daily quests using them and saw the tribe you were doing quests for was using those mounts in cutscenes). FFXIV on the other hand generally has good PR and doesn't alienate their customers.

I don't think generally speaking the age has a huge effect here but go on.

I'm old enough to remember playing wow on launch and this, the main difference I see if blizz hads 25-30 euro mounts and may add a lesser version in the game, or use predatory methods locking people in for 6 month sub to get a mount (that is later added to the store).

[Iscah]

Would explain a lot. Tried to look into former threads by this person, all i see is "Delete topic" or "eh, whatever" in everything they typed up. If it bothers them that much that they can be quoted, then they should get off the forums entirely.

Indeed. If you look through the threads they erase the initial post (since they can't delete it) and fully delete the rest. So checking their post history alone isn't even seeing the full scale of how much they're doing this.

Real question, did something bring this question about?
Maybe I'm just getting too caught up with the specifics of the wording, but everyone already has their own opinions on the cash shop. Did something happen that might "start getting hate?" Did something about the cash shop change?

I'm pretty sure they're just looking for reliably controversial arguments that will get people replying to them.

[nighttimebunny]

Nope because you can't just buy a gil token to buy carries like in wow

[Reimmi]

1, No buying gil in the store like wow's token
2, FF14 still gets unique mounts in game rather than all non-reskins being put on the shop
3, The profits from the store go directly into the game
and 4, It is a necessary evil that yoshi p agreed to, so he and his team could have full development freedom without square's input

[Iscah]

Nope because you can't just buy a gil token to buy carries like in wow

1, No buying gil in the store like wow's token
2, FF14 still gets unique mounts in game rather than all non-reskins being put on the shop
3, The profits from the store go directly into the game
and 4, It is a necessary evil that yoshi p agreed to, so he and his team could have full development freedom without square's input

Do you guys even read the initial post or do you just read the thread title and leap in to reply with your opinion on the general subject?

Does the complete lack of text in the initial post not make you question what's happening here?

[AlyaNimfa]

Do you guys even read the initial post or do you just read the thread title and leap in to reply with your opinion on the general subject?

Does the complete lack of text in the initial post not make you question what's happening here?

Kinda hard to when OP deleted what he said, leaving only the title.