Endwalker GNB Discussion

[ForteNightshade]

You can look up yourself, but both my clears in TEA were grey.

I already have. Which begs the question. Why are you talking about optimization when none of the concerns being discussed will apply to you? If your goal is only to clear, delaying oGCDs outside buffs won't matter nor will losing an oGCD even if it were Hypervelocity.

If it's "Moving the boss is going to be harder" then just figure out ways to move the boss where either you're not going to be using burst strike, or start to move ahead of time. If WHM can figure out movement during a boss fight, GNB can.
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"If you only hit the tail end of rampart with a tank buster, you take more damage!"
...what? Did you read what you wrote?

Likewise, if you can only time Rampart to line up with an upcoming tank buster but won't have the weave space to add a second CD, you'll just take more damage than any other tank in the same position.

Did you? I specifically highlighted an example where you'd want multiple cooldowns. Currently, Burst Strike creates a much needed double weave slot for GNB to facilitate that. In EW, you won't be able to since you only have one weave slot. So you'll either drop a CD or move one of your oGCDs out of raid buffs.

As GNB is now is what we should be using as the control in comparison. GNB isn't dumbed down now because there's nothing else to compare it to. I'm not complaining about how it is now, I'm saying "complaining about Hypervelocity cannot lead to a gutting of GNB how DRK got gutted in 5.0 due to a perceived "wah it's too hard"."

In other words, don't ask for clunky design changes because the dev team might overreact and take the whole thing away? First, that's a terrible mindset; essentially saying the dev team can't fix a problem without swinging too far in the opposite direction. Which, to be fair, has been an issue. Second, and more important, your comparison is entirely flawed since Dark Arts never required you to use it immediately. Much in the same way I can delay a usage of Flood now, so long as I wasn't overcapping my MP, it didn't interfere. That isn't the case with Hypervelocity, which is adding unnecessary clunkiness instead of taking it away.

First of all I want to say: I understand frustration of people who go for Ultimates and speedkills. I really do so I am sorry that it will make your gameplay worse.

But 99% of player base does not do speedkills, ultiamtes, hell even savage is mostly ignored. For me, a casual tank main - I like more OGCDs becasue that is the fun of GNB for me. And I really like idea of Continuation for Burst Strike as it was always for me that window where I was like "Why so slow now??". For me GNB is insane speed, speed and speed where my fingers jump all over keyboard and I love it.

Hence why I wouldn't want to remove Hypervelocity but change it so we're both happy.

One option would be the aforementioned suggestion Xeno made to simply give Hypervelocity and the assorted Cartridge combo oGCDs increased range. While this wouldn't fix the weaving issue, it would allow GNB to move the boss without potentially clipping their GCD.

My preferred option is making it so these oGCDs won't break if you use another weapon skill. Even if that only applied to Hypervelocity, it'd simply put GNB back to where it is now in terms of weave space.

Regardless, both options don't impact the casual play you enjoy while also not impacting my preference to optimize.