why so much players have a rush mentality

[Nethereal]

As it's what they actually do? The take the lead and pull more. I know in your delusional world it's called helping but it's take the lead.

The tank leads the party because it's the most beneficial not because it's their job.
Having a tank in this game makes certain dungeons easier but it is by no means required.
A tank pulling does a few things: It centers the damage on one party member who just so happens to be the tankiest. This largely removes attention required from the healer to look out for split chip damage on the party and also makes it so they don't have to worry about getting aggro themselves. Because the damage is centered this allows for larger pulls because it becomes a hps vs dps situation on the tank's health bar.

There is no pull in this entire game that requires a tank, most bosses don't even require a tank in content that requires a "pull".
If given a choice in the queue/roulette system you would probably see more people simply going 4 dps, 3 dps & 1 tank, 3 dps & 1 healer than the usual 2 dps & 1 tank & 1 healer.

Take lead, pull more, take point. It's all sophistry & semantics.

The job of the tank is to benefit the party by holding aggro that's it, the game doesn't care how efficient you are at it just like it doesn't care how efficient you are at healing.

Queueing for tank does not make you the leader of anything.

[Xirean]

As it's what they actually do? The take the lead and pull more. I know in your delusional world it's called helping but it's take the lead.

Right right cause the tank is obviously the leader right? The fact that SO many people can keep telling you over and over again that the tank is not the leader, does not set the pace, and doesn't really have final say on anything by default and you keep ignoring it is getting really annoying.

But we both know that you won't ever actually listen, because in your delusion you've already decided that tank is king and all others are subservient. You don't care if people have a hard time talking due to technical or social difficulties. Because unless they say IN CHAT that they want to go faster, then they are disrespecting the tank. Despite that chat is only one avenue of communication and using abilities is another. One that you not only don't understand, but don't care to try. And if you really think that tank is the leader and you're going to hold true to that one concept, then maybe take the immediate feed back of those in your runs and be a better leader.

[Jijifli]

When a tank says they alone set the pace, I always wish deep down they'd finally suffer the triple leech combo where they're basically 95% of party dps.

They'll start to realize just how little they alone set a pace. Because as it turns out, everyone's got a job to do in setting that.

[Nethereal]

When a tank says they alone set the pace, I always wish deep down they'd finally suffer the triple leech combo where they're basically 95% of party dps.

They'll start to realize just how little they alone set a pace. Because as it turns out, everyone's got a job to do in setting that.

God that would be something.

[Kraniel]

On JP worlds it's etiquette to respect the tank's pace, so for years long i've almost never seen players rush ahead and pull mobs instead of the tank.
Now that i'm on Tonberry i do see it quite often. People pre-pull in dungeons or in alliance raids just because they can't be bothered to wait a couple more seconds ...

Though to be honest, when i go for a roulette and the tank is slow, it does make me sigh every once in a while (especially as a healer) ... So in the end i'm not sure what to think of this. Maybe i'm just a boomer that gets irritated at everything

[SamsaraTrickstar]

The tank leads the party because it's the most beneficial not because it's their job.
Having a tank in this game makes certain dungeons easier but it is by no means required.
A tank pulling does a few things: It centers the damage on one party member who just so happens to be the tankiest. This largely removes attention required from the healer to look out for split chip damage on the party and also makes it so they don't have to worry about getting aggro themselves. Because the damage is centered this allows for larger pulls because it becomes a hps vs dps situation on the tank's health bar.

There is no pull in this entire game that requires a tank, most bosses don't even require a tank in content that requires a "pull".
If given a choice in the queue/roulette system you would probably see more people simply going 4 dps, 3 dps & 1 tank, 3 dps & 1 healer than the usual 2 dps & 1 tank & 1 healer.

Take lead, pull more, take point. It's all sophistry & semantics.

The job of the tank is to benefit the party by holding aggro that's it, the game doesn't care how efficient you are at it just like it doesn't care how efficient you are at healing.

Queueing for tank does not make you the leader of anything.

Well most dungeons ate so easy you don't need any thing. You can do a no healer or no tank or onlly tank or onlly dps.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Right right cause the tank is obviously the leader right? The fact that SO many people can keep telling you over and over again that the tank is not the leader, does not set the pace, and doesn't really have final say on anything by default and you keep ignoring it is getting really annoying.

But we both know that you won't ever actually listen, because in your delusion you've already decided that tank is king and all others are subservient. You don't care if people have a hard time talking due to technical or social difficulties. Because unless they say IN CHAT that they want to go faster, then they are disrespecting the tank. Despite that chat is only one avenue of communication and using abilities is another. One that you not only don't understand, but don't care to try. And if you really think that tank is the leader and you're going to hold true to that one concept, then maybe take the immediate feed back of those in your runs and be a better leader.

I do not ignore shit. I say time after time people need to talk it out. If you ask me if it's ok for you to pull as dps you may get a yes and I even take the monster from you.

[ElenaRedoran]

Well most dungeons ate so easy you don't need any thing. You can do a no healer or no tank or onlly tank or onlly dps.

which is why you pull everything! makes the game more fun too.

[Poporito_Popoto]

I do not ignore shit. I say time after time people need to talk it out. If you ask me if it's ok for you to pull as dps you may get a yes and I even take the monster from you.

Anyone ever see this guy and ChocoPuni in the same room together?

Just curious.

[Doru_Nintendan]

Anyone ever see this guy and ChocoPuni in the same room together?

Just curious.

Different people. Because Samsara ACTUALLY lets people see their posts and replies