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    SamsaraTrickstar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    Single or large pull, without communicating is very bad

    Feel the pull too small?speak
    Feel the pull too large?speak

    It is a mmo, talk to each other if you feel the pace doesn’t suit you
    that's the hole point.
    problem most are not willing to do it. they will ignore you. or just never be willing to except what you ask for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    that's the hole point.
    problem most are not willing to do it. they will ignore you. or just never be willing to except what you ask for.
    I would advise you not to speak for "most" as you do not represent them.
    I also feel that you never tried to speak to anyone yourself, just silently mad at every random.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    I would advise you not to speak for "most" as you do not represent them.
    I also feel that you never tried to speak to anyone yourself, just silently mad at every random.
    that is where you are wrong. i start by saying hi or hallow and the ask people how are they. thing is normally i get ignored even by that point and the healer run off. i try to ""force"" people to talk in chat. but if i find my self talk to the walls then i stop.
    but when people are willing to be nice and at last say hi/hallow to the party all be well and nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    that is where you are wrong. i start by saying hi or hallow and the ask people how are they. thing is normally i get ignored even by that point and the healer run off. i try to ""force"" people to talk in chat. but if i find my self talk to the walls then i stop.
    but when people are willing to be nice and at last say hi/hallow to the party all be well and nice.
    Is that a problem? Not everyone wants to talk. Some people are on console and it's very hard to talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    that is where you are wrong. i start by saying hi or hallow and the ask people how are they. thing is normally i get ignored even by that point and the healer run off. i try to ""force"" people to talk in chat. but if i find my self talk to the walls then i stop.
    but when people are willing to be nice and at last say hi/hallow to the party all be well and nice.
    Just because someone doesn't say hi/bye, it doesn't mean people are not nice. They might have the chat logs turned off completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    that is where you are wrong. i start by saying hi or hallow and the ask people how are they. thing is normally i get ignored even by that point and the healer run off. i try to ""force"" people to talk in chat. but if i find my self talk to the walls then i stop.
    but when people are willing to be nice and at last say hi/hallow to the party all be well and nice.
    It feels strange a social game, mmo, that players are not very found of socialize, i like chat with new players too, i tried sometimes, but not always they take conversation further. Sword Art Online may be the perfect MMO simulator that you play solo, I tried too, didn't like it.
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    Last edited by Fellgon; 10-19-2021 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    that is where you are wrong. i start by saying hi or hallow and the ask people how are they. thing is normally i get ignored even by that point and the healer run off. i try to ""force"" people to talk in chat. but if i find my self talk to the walls then i stop.
    but when people are willing to be nice and at last say hi/hallow to the party all be well and nice.
    Given this, why would I even want to talk with you? Why would anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    The better question to this almost daily/weekly thread is:

    "Why can't you people just talk like adults at the start of the dungeon to see what everyone is comfortable doing, then just do that?"
    Been saying this all the time in almost all the “pull/speed” thread, I almost give up by now. It is a mmo, a simple “can we go big pull? Can we go small pull?” I doubt there are that many console players
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    Here are some of the reasons people 'rush':

    - Rewards in MMO's are generally quantified per hour. This can be xp/hr, gil/hr etc. Trying to maximize that metric is a very common part of playing an mmo and extends to all parts of the community.

    - Dungeons in this game are filled via a daily roulette system, often with veteran players who are trying to maximize their xp to time spent.

    - Rushing is extremely easy in this game, and the barrier for execution is virtually non-existent. Pulling multiple packs is gameplay that is accessible to everyone who is able to push more than 3 buttons.

    - Fighting a lot of mobs at once, or killing a boss quickly is an important part of the games power-fantasy. We're the warrior of light, killer of gods, feller of empires etc etc. Why fight 3 enemies when you can jump into the fray and absolutely demolish 15 at once? It's satisfying to most players.
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    Volk Virses
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    With AOEs it takes just as much time to kill 10 enemies as it does to kill 1, so why not 10?

    The only thing that stops me from pulling big in dungeons is being undergeared and not knowing / remembering ARR gimmicks like pulling chains or collecting whatsits along the way
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    "Which pet do you want, Red Sticks, Chicken Nuggets or Abomination Parrot? None, get out of here with that s***." ~Samuraiking

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