Some healers are taking the entire ogcd heal thing to the extreme.

[Miziliti]

It's near the end of SHB. I'm starting to get fed up with it because I keep encountering more and more Glare mages who refused to even cast medica on a raid wide aoe when lilies and assize are on cool down. It used to be selfish SCHs (in HW) behave this way acting like a DPS, but after SHB, more and more WHMs just wants to Glare.

I've seen this extreme case multiple times in neir raid with first time players in party lately. One time I had to pretty much suffer as a SCH spamming shield, indom, and fairy on cd because this Glare mage won't heal the party past 50% without lilies. The Lily system might need a nerf if there are players acting like hard cast healing spell is a sin or something. Really threw the whole teamwork out of the window.

Well let me update a bit more: My party had 4 new players. I expect them to die a lot. Couldn't use aetherflow stacks on lustrate. I have to save them for indom. The co-WHM basically ignore all the healing timing and died multiple times at half hp still refusing to medica. Party wiped at twin bosses, red girl, and last boss with back to back raid wide aoes when I only had succor left. I just wanted to farm glams, but next time I rather eat penalty. This one case was the most unpleasant one so far.

[DJLovely]

Expecting a white mage to heal you're a real kidder I'll tell you that.

[Recon1o6]

It appears you don't understand that the entire point of healing is to minimise your gcd heals and use your ogcds to do so.

The goal of any encounter is to do damage that defeats the enemy. A whm and astro especially have regens and ogcds so strong they can leave them ticking and they will top off the party before the next dangerous mechanic.
Given so much damage is avoidable and the unavoidable stuff is so light outside of savage, it will then be on the dps to do their damn job and dodge.

All the good healers are returning now since we're a month from EW and the moogle event is coming up. That's why you see more glare mages- because glare mage is the way healers are supposed to play in this game.
plus its good practice for sage.

[Mortex]

I mean you can just let the group wipe once and tell him it’s ok if he likes to do dmg but if he doesn’t like healing at all even when you used up all your ogcd heals that he should play astro. Has all the ogcd heals you want, more mobility and because of that also more dmg in a lot of situation. And if he want his 100 or 99 logs for whm you can tell him he should look exactly for a group like this or open one himself or at least tell you what his idea is so you don’t suffer mid fight.

[Mortex]

It appears you don't understand that the entire point of healing is to minimise your gcd heals and use your ogcds to do so.

The goal of any encounter is to do damage that defeats the enemy. A whm and astro especially have regens and ogcds so strong they can leave them ticking and they will top off the party before the next dangerous mechanic.
Given so much damage is avoidable and the unavoidable stuff is so light outside of savage, it will then be on the dps to do their damn job and dodge.

All the good healers are returning now since we're a month from EW and the moogle event is coming up. That's why you see more glare mages- because glare mage is the way healers are supposed to play in this game.
plus its good practice for sage.

Well whm misses good ogcd heals a lot in comparison to astro. It’s a sad fact that if you play a raid comp with whm the sch or astro normally do the heavy raid healing. It’s bad design that whm loses the most for heals they do as the symbolic final fantasy healer character.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Send those Glare Mages to my side. I want them to be in my party so I can actually heal

[Absurdity]

We're lacking information to pass any kind of judgement on that situation tbh.
For example letting people sit at 50% hp is completely fine if you know that you will have lillies or oGCDs coming up before the next raidwide.

Without more information on the specific instance of WHMs spamming Glare instead of healing there isn't much to say besides yes, healers are supposed to dps, efficient healing means minimizing GCD healing and no, you don't need to spam heal everyone to max hp immediately after taking damage.

[Sebazy]

One time I had to pretty much suffer as a SCH spamming shield, indom, and fairy on cd because this Glare mage won't heal the party past 50% without lilies. The Lily system might need a nerf if there are players acting like hard cast healing spell is a sin or something. Really threw the whole teamwork out of the window.

Ok, I'm going to go in here and it isn't going to be pretty. Buckle up.

Your mentality is a huge part of why healers are in this exact hole they are in. Neir AoEs are infrequent enough that a WHM can easily top people before the next AoE with Assize, Lilies and Asylum.

But no. You demand that they heal you back to full immediately after the AoE because otherwise your comfort blanket might get a bit ruffled. Oh noes

The only reason you even suggest the Lily system might need a nerf is because you are butthurt that a healer prioritised their overall contribution over your feels. Get over yourself. By your very own logic, nerfing the Lily system would make things even worse. But that doesn't matter since you've got to put that healer back in their place and that's what counts right?

Your attitude and mentality disgusts me.

[Silver-Strider]

It's near the end of SHB. I'm starting to get fed up with it because I keep encountering more and more Glare mages who refused to even cast medica on a raid wide aoe when lilies and assize are on cool down. It used to be selfish SCHs (in HW) behave this way acting like a DPS, but after SHB, more and more WHMs just wants to Glare.

I've seen this extreme case multiple times in neir raid with first time players in party lately. One time I had to pretty much suffer as a SCH spamming shield, indom, and fairy on cd because this Glare mage won't heal the party past 50% without lilies. The Lily system might need a nerf if there are players acting like hard cast healing spell is a sin or something. Really threw the whole teamwork out of the window.

Imagine complaining because you had to heal on a healer.
Imagine complaining about optimal WHM gameplay.
Imagine complaining about the Lily System that is already going to be outdated in EW because Glare will have an even greater discrepancy in damage over Misery so WHM will be even less inclined to use said Lily system.

[Aword3213]

It's near the end of SHB. I'm starting to get fed up with it because I keep encountering more and more Glare mages who refused to even cast medica on a raid wide aoe when lilies and assize are on cool down. It used to be selfish SCHs (in HW) behave this way acting like a DPS, but after SHB, more and more WHMs just wants to Glare.

I've seen this extreme case multiple times in neir raid with first time players in party lately. One time I had to pretty much suffer as a SCH spamming shield, indom, and fairy on cd because this Glare mage won't heal the party past 50% without lilies. The Lily system might need a nerf if there are players acting like hard cast healing spell is a sin or something. Really threw the whole teamwork out of the window.

Some healers think they're pro, but in fact they are trolls.

Some healers are like this. They think they know exactly how hard the next aoe will hit. They are sure that the team will survive without healing. Then those poor and helpless dps just die from unavoidable aoe. Not to mention there are also tanks that got beaten to death by boss autos because they have triggerhappy healers on their team.

However, the fault is on those players, not the job. You have to put your blame on the right target. Bad healer exists. There's nothing we can do about it. Just do what you can for the team. I'm sure your teammates will appreciate your hard work.