A great change for Commendation

[SturmChurro]

I have routinely saved parties myself by healing (literally solo healed), prevented wipes, and gotten no commendations. I always chuckle when people say "just play healer or tank", when healer and tank is pretty much all I play, and I hardly ever get them regardless of how well I perform in any aspect.

[Dewslam]

I have routinely saved parties myself by healing (literally solo healed), prevented wipes, and gotten no commendations. I always chuckle when people say "just play healer or tank", when healer and tank is pretty much all I play, and I hardly ever get them regardless of how well I perform in any aspect.

Back in the like Heavensward days it felt like "just play tank/healer" was the go-to for comms, honestly. Where you could expect to just get all three for tanking or healing - and it did breed a lot of weird DF mentalities where some people, however bad they were, would demand them just for showing up. But these days I notice I get way, way, more comms just by being a basic brained DPS and doing my job without screwing up. Or doing something comical like LBing and killing a boss and dying at the same time.

[Lexis]

If a party member did something that left a good impression on you, give them a commendation. If not, don't. The system doesn't need to be more complicated than that and certainly doesn't need a 'grading system'.

Plus, as a whm, the fact that you're speaking against holy spamming, one of our most valuable tool against trash in both damage output and damage mitigation via stun locking, makes me glad you don't get to rate your whm on performance <.<

[Xirean]

I find it very funny that you want a rating system while also saying that WHM spamming Holy is bad. Holy is easily one of the best moves on the class. For that one comment alone I rate you at F.

In all seriousness though, grading systems suck. I'm glad they are not in the game. They breed a toxic mentality and the fact that the game does not care is a good thing. Grading systems can't account for the individual perception of fun. If I want to commend a dps for dying in a hilarious way or telling a really stupid joke, I'm allowed to.

[Leshiken]

In other words, you prefer being lazy and supportive about the lack of effort in cooperative play? Because I am typing about role performance, and not about someone dying hilarious or telling a stupid joke NOR what you are allowed too.

[Seera1024]

I'm not a fan of anything that uses a system that judges players on how they did when how they did is based on how the others did in the content.

A melee DPS's ability to do max DPS is dependent on the tank not moving the boss too much.

Tanks fighting over aggro can cause DPS and healers to have problems if the boss uses the wrong attack when facing the wrong way. And cause problems for each other due to aggro management.

Healers can have problems if the black mages are going "healer's adjust, I'm not moving out of my ley lines" or ranged DPS standing out of range of the healer or tanks not properly using their cooldowns.

[Krotoan]

Lets not put arbitrary ranking in the hands of other players. The one kudos is enough, I don't need a bunch of people who don't understand what my role does or what problems I'm dealing with dinging my rewards or possibly ABUSING the system to troll others.

[Avidria]

Speaking as someone who totally supports parsers... I don't think an automated grading system would work in this game. What counts as 'good' is gonna vary from group to group, and sometimes it'll vary a lot. Someone else hit on this earlier, but like... if I'm in a group with friends, I'm gonna be standing in aoes left and right as a dps or letting my friends' health get a little spooky sometimes because I know they know what they're doing and that I can get away with that without getting everyone killed. If I'm in a pug group I'll generally be more cautious because I've had a few too many groups where I just straight up never got healed even through UNavoidable damage to take that chance.

I adjust my play to fit the group, and the situation, and there are some things an automatic grading system can't account for and can't tell you. Just like even parsers can't really tell you everything. There's just too many variables and too many ways to misinterpret them, even if most dungeons in this game are just different flavors of hallway.

[DeaconMoore]

Wait, people use the commendation system for gameplay performance and not glam??!??!

Guess I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

[Avidria]

Wait, people use the commendation system for gameplay performance and not glam??!??!

Guess I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

Nono, you give it to whoever has the funniest name, THEN whoever has the best glam.

Then the best dps or whatever, I guess