A great change for Commendation

[Xirean]

I find it very funny that you want a rating system while also saying that WHM spamming Holy is bad. Holy is easily one of the best moves on the class. For that one comment alone I rate you at F.

In all seriousness though, grading systems suck. I'm glad they are not in the game. They breed a toxic mentality and the fact that the game does not care is a good thing. Grading systems can't account for the individual perception of fun. If I want to commend a dps for dying in a hilarious way or telling a really stupid joke, I'm allowed to.

[Seera1024]

I'm not a fan of anything that uses a system that judges players on how they did when how they did is based on how the others did in the content.

A melee DPS's ability to do max DPS is dependent on the tank not moving the boss too much.

Tanks fighting over aggro can cause DPS and healers to have problems if the boss uses the wrong attack when facing the wrong way. And cause problems for each other due to aggro management.

Healers can have problems if the black mages are going "healer's adjust, I'm not moving out of my ley lines" or ranged DPS standing out of range of the healer or tanks not properly using their cooldowns.

[Krotoan]

Lets not put arbitrary ranking in the hands of other players. The one kudos is enough, I don't need a bunch of people who don't understand what my role does or what problems I'm dealing with dinging my rewards or possibly ABUSING the system to troll others.

[Avidria]

Speaking as someone who totally supports parsers... I don't think an automated grading system would work in this game. What counts as 'good' is gonna vary from group to group, and sometimes it'll vary a lot. Someone else hit on this earlier, but like... if I'm in a group with friends, I'm gonna be standing in aoes left and right as a dps or letting my friends' health get a little spooky sometimes because I know they know what they're doing and that I can get away with that without getting everyone killed. If I'm in a pug group I'll generally be more cautious because I've had a few too many groups where I just straight up never got healed even through UNavoidable damage to take that chance.

I adjust my play to fit the group, and the situation, and there are some things an automatic grading system can't account for and can't tell you. Just like even parsers can't really tell you everything. There's just too many variables and too many ways to misinterpret them, even if most dungeons in this game are just different flavors of hallway.

[DeaconMoore]

Wait, people use the commendation system for gameplay performance and not glam??!??!

Guess I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

[Avidria]

Wait, people use the commendation system for gameplay performance and not glam??!??!

Guess I've been doing it wrong this whole time.

Nono, you give it to whoever has the funniest name, THEN whoever has the best glam.

Then the best dps or whatever, I guess

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Performance score can be nice when implemented properly. But the question is, how are you going to gauge each role's performance?

DPS? Obviously their damage dealt.
Tanks? This get a bit blurry but perhaps the amount of damage they mitigate by a proper usage of cooldowns & their damage, because to generate said enmity they have to deal damage.
Healer? This is where the gauging falls apart, flat. The amount of HP they healed? There's not even much to heal in dungeons, Medica II 100% uptime meta incoming! Damage dealt? But they're a healer! The amount of raises they did? But that means the DPS has to die to increase the healer's scores!

And then we have mechanics handling. How do you score this? What if that RDM backflip to your side with their marker and stacks with yours, killing each other? It wasn't your mistake! But your score suffers because of that g*ddamned RDM!

...Actually , we're treading so close to those glorified calculating tools! Ain't no way Yoshi-p gonna agree with this, it's too much pressure on those poor inexperienced players! Numbers on themselves don't do any harm, just like any tools, but do not underestimate the lengths a playerbase willing to go through for certain goal.

I have to agree that comm system is mediocre at best. If any, they just serve more like a facebook like buttons.

[_Pigzig]

*Tanks badly and still gets all the comms in your path*
nothin personnel kid

[Tulzscha]

how do you rate players?

Glamour, obviously.

[Katie_Kitty]

Never really understood why do ppl care about those in the first place, it doesn't mean anything.

I agree. It's pretty unpopular whenever I say it, but the truth is that the majority of the players in this game don't even know how to recognize a skilled player when they see one anyways. Most of the time it just comes down to things like which job/role you play or your glamour or whether or not you said hello and goodbye at the beginning and end of the duty.

Though, with that said, I've had all the commendation rewards for a long time now so of course they seem pretty worthless to me. If they were a good indicator of someone who performs well, I think I'd be more happy with them despite that, but receiving them from this particular game's community just feels hollow most of the time.