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    Chiraisu's Avatar
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    Chiraisu Saika
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 80

    A question about Ninja Huton Maintenance

    So, since many of the jobs are losing their buff maintenance in favor of shifting them over to traits (in the pursuit of braindead combat), I was actually somewhat surprised to see that Huton remains as a thing you are supposed to cast, and that huraijin is meant as a way, mid combat, to refresh it without spending valuable mudra (which are responsible for a larger amount of your DPS than before).

    But I think the most confusing thing to me here is, well, why? I know that Huton is largely kept for the same reason Hyoton is. They have a ninjutsu for each element to stick true to ninja traditionally and that's fine. But why not rework huton entirely?

    We see now Raiton is getting a combo of sorts that acts as a (double) gapcloser, doton is getting an addition to keep it interesting. Huton could have been more of the same thing yeah? Something that can be performed to do something miraculous on perhaps a longer cooldown. It could even be possible to throw ten-chi-jin on a 2charge to use up both meisui and some other to be announced action related to huton.

    Conceptually I feel that would make more sense, what do you guys think?

    I'm ultimately quite happy with the changes ninja is seeing, it's just the state of huton and huraijin was a bit of a head scratcher.
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    Kaedys Kor
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 99
    I mean, in theory, you would only be casting Huton once, during the prepull, when it doesn't even cost charges (since you can reset it with Hide). After that, your maintenance just comes in the form of Armor Crush or Hakke, which is akin to Dragoon's 2nd melee combo for upkeeping their DoT and buff (and while Blood of the Dragon became a trait, the buff from Disembowel was renamed, but remains and still must be maintained). I suspect that Huraijin's primary use will be for those times you oopsied and dropped it, or for reapplying it when you don't have the option of a Hide reset (ie. after a long transition phase or something). To be honest, the ability does feel a bit weird, as Ninja already has a pretty clean system for applying and maintaining Huton.

    Realistically, though, because of the duration, and the duration refresh magnitude from Armor Crush (you only need to use it once every ~4th combo), it's not nearly as annoying to maintain as Blood of the Dragon was. It seems odd to me that you deplore the shift of some of those buffs to traits as "braindead combat" and yet then ask for the same thing to be applied to a buff that takes hardly any effort at all to maintain currently, and lasts well more than twice as long as Blood of the Dragon did (and Armor Crush adds as much duration to Huton as Blood of the Dragon's entire duration), and is getting a new dedicated button to (re)apply it without costing Ninjitsu charges.
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