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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Reaper Question and Request

    Does Arcane Circle become Plentiful Harvest? (If not, could it?)

    And can Gluttony become Communio when Enshrouded.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Won't happen because the recasts are different and AC and Gluttony are Abilities while PH and Communion are a weaponskill and Spell respectively on the GCD.

    Edit: I do understand your concern for Reaper though. Button bloat is going to be a thing since for controller players such as myself the full kit of Reaper requires 24 buttons at minimum. Not including Limit Break, Sprint and any associated Role actions.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 10-17-2021 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Won't happen because the recasts are different and AC and Gluttony are Abilities while PH and Communion are a weaponskill and Spell respectively on the GCD.

    Edit: I do understand your concern for Reaper though. Button bloat is going to be a thing since for controller players such as myself the full kit of Reaper requires 24 buttons at minimum. Not including Limit Break, Sprint and any associated Role actions.
    24's not that many, Sam's ending up at 35 with role actions.
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    Which classes don't use 24+ skills?
    It's very normal to need 3 hotbars for just about everything.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    DNC,MCH,WAR,WHM,RDM. BLM has a lot but you can get away with not using a few actions. Machinist is definitely the easiest to get behind. SMN might be joining the Smooth Moves brigade.

    I'm sure like most classes Reaper will function fine on just 2 hotbars. 32 buttons seems like the sweet spot.

    It's just going to take getting used to. Especially since Blood Stalk, Swathe, Gibbet, Gallows, Guillotine, SoulSow, Hell's Ingress and Hell's Egress all change into different actions.

    Only role actions I can see prominent use of in PvE is Second Wind and Bloodbath. Everything else is largely unnecessary given that Reaper only has 2 positionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Won't happen because the recasts are different and AC and Gluttony are Abilities while PH and Communion are a weaponskill and Spell respectively on the GCD.

    Edit: I do understand your concern for Reaper though. Button bloat is going to be a thing since for controller players such as myself the full kit of Reaper requires 24 buttons at minimum. Not including Limit Break, Sprint and any associated Role actions.
    I also play on controller. I was trying to map out the layout of how I would want my layout and just found I don't really have a good spot for some skills since we basically have single target and AoE versions of the same moves. (Honestly don't know why they can't just combine them at this point but w/e)
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I also play on controller. I was trying to map out the layout of how I would want my layout and just found I don't really have a good spot for some skills since we basically have single target and AoE versions of the same moves. (Honestly don't know why they can't just combine them at this point but w/e)
    I won't worry about mapping them until Nov 19th.

    It's either going to be 2 or 3 Hotbars. Probably the usual 32 buttons.

    If it's 3 it'll specifically be for Shroud mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I won't worry about mapping them until Nov 19th.

    It's either going to be 2 or 3 Hotbars. Probably the usual 32 buttons.

    If it's 3 it'll specifically be for Shroud mode.
    Haha. I just like to plan ahead so I spend less time thinking about where I want each skill and more time leveling. I put Harpe, Egress, Ingress and Soulsow on the 3rd cross bar. Single target are on cross bar 1 and AoE on cross bar 2. The only spell I don't have placed is Communio, or Communion incase that was a spelling error lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Won't happen because the recasts are different and AC and Gluttony are Abilities while PH and Communion are a weaponskill and Spell respectively on the GCD.

    Edit: I do understand your concern for Reaper though. Button bloat is going to be a thing since for controller players such as myself the full kit of Reaper requires 24 buttons at minimum. Not including Limit Break, Sprint and any associated Role actions.
    I don't think it being ability or weapon skill, or even different cooldowns play any role in whether they can turn into each other. GNB Continuation combo is a mix of weapon skills and abilities, and it is all on one button come Endwalker. DRG Geirskogul and Nostrond are on different cooldowns yet share a button.

    They likely will not do this on reaper for those specific abilities.
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    So I've been thinking and instead of Gluttony becoming Communio, could Void Reaping and Cross Reaping become Communio when you only have 1 Death Gauge left after unlocking Communio? As well as Grim Reaping?
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    Last edited by Burningskull; 01-08-2022 at 12:12 PM.

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