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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiscence View Post
    I mean if you say anything in game, you can get banned/reported, even if said nicely because the person "didn't want any unsolicited advice".
    And yet I have not been banned for giving unsolicited advice...
    While "expressions that compel a playing style" is mentioned in prohibited behaviour, it's specifically under "Offensive Expressions," which to me says if you're rude/mean with your advice (swears, slurs, insults) then you risk a ban. So if you want to tell a RDM that just spamming Jolt isn't how to play RDM, or a tank doing a single-target rotation in a pack of mobs (inevitably having them go after the healer, which could fall under nuisance behaviour or MPK) should AoE, you shouldn't/won't be banned if you're neutral/nice about it.
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    I read that you have left the thread but shall respond for posterity sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    Thank you for the laugh. But you know, if telling people how they should play is working for you, great! From what I gather of these discussions it’s not tho. And personally I think trying to understand why something does not work is more useful because there may be potential solutions there instead of having to settle for frustration.
    There are mixed experiences giving the advice, it is most random! Some say nothing and do not improve, others respond (mostly sprouts in low level dungeons) with positivity, some are hostile. I do not need to stop and postulate why the tank refuses to put stance on or the deeps is not aoeing during trash pulls. I will simply ask to do this and kick if they do not. The only solution is to do the thing, aoe during pulls or put the stance on, etc. I am not nor are my friends obligated to tolerate dying nine times in the dungeon or being there for 40 minutes when there is kick feature.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    I think at its heart the main issue might just be phrasing. I’ll try to explain what I mean.
    (iron will)(please use it) or Tank your stance! maybe mister tank level sync disabled your tank stance. I do not and my friends and family are not opening this with "Omg stoopid dragoon doesn't know what doomspike is". I believe this is what others assume we are doing, but you know what assuming does. What I do not have to do is spend inordinate lengths of time explaining why something is better during content. I can, we try, but this is not necessary and is not my job to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    In essence one could argue, if anything, it shows a lot of people behave very similarly! They may just be on different sides of a discussion. Most of the time the answer will be somewhere in the middle. From personal experience I’d say accepting people may make different choices and/or may be different from you, trying to understand their reasoning and keeping it in mind with how you approach stuff, and trying to figure out ways to encourage people in positive ways to experiment and learn might make these discussions less polarised and who knows, maybe result in something that has a positive impact for each side.
    There are plethora of the things that are not worth discussing during a duty. We will ask for bigger pulls. We will tell someone they should aoe. Beyond this? No. I will not "accept the difference in choice" of the level 80 black mage spamming blizzard 2 at range during trash pulls. I shall ask them to stop and kick them when they do not. Depending on situation I will guide them to Wesker or other content creators that make reasonable guides aimed towards newer players.

    Everyone is entitled to make all the decision and choices for how to play that they wish. What they are not entitled to is wasting another's time or causing grief to my friends and family. If they are entitled to play style choice I am entitled to *a party member has been dismissed from the duty*.
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