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    Nishira's Avatar
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    Ninuriel Elonir
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    Conjurer Lv 68
    I’d give different examples of corresponding situations in daily life LittleImp. An old lady who is a bit slow when checking out. A student who doesn’t grasp something and they need a bit of time and patience to get there. Someone who is timid and simply doesn’t have the kind of personality to jump right in.

    Yes, you’ll bump into players who don’t play optimally. No, they don’t do that to torment others. It’s a simple fact that ability and execution will vary. It’s been that way from the start of mmo’s, it will be so till the end. It’s pointless to try battle that, there is no battle. I usually ask myself when someone is frustrating me: are they frustrating me, or am I frustrating me? And it’s most of the time the latter, because of unrealistic expectations.

    The devs here very obviously have zero intention of setting some arbitrary bar for their playerbase. Have fun, enjoy the story, love the music, glam your heart out. Instead of saying: well we’re not the devs, we set the rules here! maybe see the beauty of their intention. Personally I appreciate it.
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    LittleImp's Avatar
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    It's a simple part of human nature to become frustrated when certain types of repetitive activities take more time than expected, particularly when the wait feels unjustified.
    Bolding the part of my original post that you appear to have glossed over. It's obviously wrong to be upset because you're held up in traffic due to a fatal accident, or stuck in line because someone is struggling physically.

    Most of this thread hasn't been about genuine inability or disability; It's been about about matters of inefficiency driven by difficult to justify personal preference, caused by players being either emotionally irrational, or incompetent by choice. The OP of the thread bragged about his great ability as a tank, and went on to state that he makes a personal decision to play in a way that is widely considered detrimental after a certain point in the game. It's also important to understand that genuine disability affects a very small amount of the player-base, and that the absolute vast majority of incidents like this do not involve someone who suffers in that way. This of course underscores why communication is important; Judgement should always be withheld until you've asked why the tank is pulling one pack at a time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omedon View Post
    1) A bored healer is a good tank's greatest compliment. My giving you as "free" a ride as possible is a gift I strive to give, in thanks for playing the most stressful role and moving the queue along!

    2) Again, if there were trusts in the 60's, I'd already be in the clear of never ever queueing to play with live players. Trust me (get it?!) in another 11 total job levels, y'all will almost certainly never see me tanking for you ever again!
    ^ This is an example of the mindset that people are generally arguing against. OP and others have been framing their choice to intentionally play poorly as good gameplay, or a responsible 'gift' to other players.
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    Artemiz's Avatar
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    Darwinian Origin
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    I’d give different examples of corresponding situations in daily life LittleImp. An old lady who is a bit slow when checking out. A student who doesn’t grasp something and they need a bit of time and patience to get there. Someone who is timid and simply doesn’t have the kind of personality to jump right in.
    I don't think it's a fair comparison to compare people who get frustrated at slow tanks in an easy dungeon to the kind of person too impatient to wait for an old lady for a minute.

    As for the student, the more accurate comparison is if the whole class has to learn at the same pace as the slowest student. It would be unfair on everyone else, especially if said student was learning slow because they couldn't be bothered to use all the tools at their disposal, didnt do any research and wouldn't listen to advice.

    As for the timid person, nobody made them jump straight into expert roulette. People should, and for the most part do have more patience with low level tanks. If someone is really anxious though practice at lower levels and/or with NPC's first.

    You have the right to play the game how you see fit, in your own time. You do not have the right to force everyone else to lay at the bottom of the barrel with you.
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