"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[Anarnee]

I'm pretty sure you get the swift completion reward so long as you complete the dungeon.

[Katie_Kitty]

People get frustrated when one member of the party is slowing the whole group's progress because they aren't comfortable tanking anything but a single pack at a time. At the end of the day, it's important to remember that your party members are people and not NPCs designed to blow up the monsters for you.

[Payadopa]

Playing a video game =/= accept to waste time because someone else feels like it.

For people here it's wasting time if someone looks at a dungeon drop or a boss cut scene. Give me a break. Nobody counts seconds like that and gets angry about it. That's downright psychotic. Some people here really need a chill pill. lol

The made-up contempt for everything is just unreal and if it gets to that point you should have gotten a break ages ago.

[Izscha]

For people here it's wasting time if someone looks at a dungeon drop or a boss cut scene. Give me a break. Nobody counts seconds like that and gets angry about it. That's downright psychotic. Some people here really need a chill pill. lol

The made-up contempt for everything is just unreal and if it gets to that point you should have gotten a break ages ago.

Making things up doesn't count as an answer nor an argument, but it's fun to watch you try at least.
The random attack on ppl enjoying parsing was really funny tho i give you that

[Rinhi]

For people here it's wasting time if someone looks at a dungeon drop or a boss cut scene. Give me a break. Nobody counts seconds like that and gets angry about it. That's downright psychotic. Some people here really need a chill pill. lol

The made-up contempt for everything is just unreal and if it gets to that point you should have gotten a break ages ago.

weren't you the one who made up a 'funny' description of people valuing their time early so you could moral grandstand and show what a nice and helpful person you are by making fun of them?
I mean, it's fine if you're ok with enabling absolutely horrible players that don't know their class after having played the game for hundreds of hours, but it's pretty bad to expect people to be willing to do the same, wouldn't you think?
but your unfunny attempt at a joke (again) aside, you know what people consider wasting time?
20 minute dungeons taking 30, 40 or even more minutes because everyone but you apparently is unable to press the glowing combo or damage buttons
30-40 minute CT raids (and that's already on the slower side) taking over an hour because of the same issue and people ignoring every single mechs because they're that lazy and no, usually not new, even if you explain it in detail
expert dungeons taking longer than 20 minutes
but I'm sure all of those are fine with you and, I'll be honest, usually the people defending those very players that ask for a carry are those kind of players themselves

[Payadopa]

Making things up doesn't count as an answer nor an argument, but it's fun to watch you try at least.
The random attack on ppl enjoying parsing was really funny tho i give you that

I think parsing can be fine. Especially for self-improvement. Something the game is really bad at teaching, honestly. For a select few, though. Yikes. Tunnel vision as far as numbers go, be they DPS or measurements of time. But, again, I rarely encounter those types in-game.

But yeah. I see why SE isn't answering anything on the official forums. Can't blame them. x)

[LittleImp]

Making things up doesn't count as an answer nor an argument, but it's fun to watch you try at least.
The random attack on ppl enjoying parsing was really funny tho i give you that

It's important to understand that the moral framework of this type of person is essentially "I am a good person; ergo, anything I do is morally justified and anyone who disagrees with me is a bad person". They rely almost completely on constructing strawmen and insulting the nature of their opposition because engaging with the actual content of the arguments presented would call their established beliefs about their own morality into question.

It's a simple part of human nature to become frustrated when certain types of repetitive activities take more time than expected, particularly when the wait feels unjustified. If a karen is holding up the checkout line at a shop because they're screaming at the cashier and trying to redeem expired coupons, most of the people waiting will be justifiably frustrated. If someone is stuck in traffic on their commute home because someone else has decided to drive 20 mph on a one-lane highway, they'll probably get frustrated. If a tank who has reached the latter half of the game refuses to pull more than a single pack at a time out of personal preference, most players will be reasonably frustrated, particularly if the person continues when asked by the party to pull more, or god forbid has a meltdown as these types often do.

People that grandstand on these types issues generally aren't ascendant moral beings. Typically their need to constantly signal their morality and righteousness, while attempting to undermine people with completely reasonable grievances or arguments is actually a strong indicator that they're not a great person. If you spend time on FFXIV twitter, you see a ton of this kind of behavior

[Zanes]

The funny thing is that how fast you run a dungeon is more about a healer than a tank.
Yeah the tank is the one pulling and getting all the aggro but at the end of the day it's about how much the healer is comfortable at healing it all.
Wanting to get the most mob you can is not only faster but challenging. I mean, there is no reason you wouldn't want to pull more unless the healer can't keep up.
If you as a tank don't feel safe to do it, that's ok, but don't be so hard on yourself and try things.

It's so fun when I get a healer that says "pull them all" and I do it even when it looks like we can't survive it.

[ForteNightshade]

What I am actually asking is that confident, competent players try to help those less confident and competent. If the other three in the Ghimlyt Dark had been sympathetic and helpful instead of insulting and rude, my friend might still be playing. He might have discovered he COULD do whatever it was that was bothering him (mostly that he had never run the dungeon before). Similarly, if the healer is struggling (for whatever reason) try and assist instead of telling them to 'git gud'.

First and foremost, let's define "insulting and rude" because I see far too often those adjectives being applied to any sort of criticism. You mention elsewhere they told your tank friend to essentially uninstalled. What prompted that response? People usually don't jump to the nuclear option instantaneously. Did he refuse to tank the extra mobs; perhaps turning off his stance or purposely sheathing his weapon and letting them die? If it were entirely unprovoked, then they were jerks. I'll grant you that. Therefore, they aren't worth a second thought.

With all this said, you are once again putting the onus on random strangers. It isn't our job to be patient and overly accommodate to someone who hasn't even learned the basics of their jobs by level 70. At 50? Sure, I'll be more accommodating. And even more so in early leveling dungeons. By Ghimlyn Dark though, we've long reached a point of taking initiative. It's a similar vein to DPS not AoEing or Healers refusing to DPS. If you haven't figured out how to weave in some DPS as a healer or how your AoE buttons work by 70, you're simply being lazy. Refusing to pull more than a single pack on a four year old dungeon at that same level is laziness.

[Artemiz]

The funny thing is that how fast you run a dungeon is more about a healer than a tank.
Yeah the tank is the one pulling and getting all the aggro but at the end of the day it's about how much the healer is comfortable at healing it all.
Wanting to get the most mob you can is not only faster but challenging. I mean, there is no reason you wouldn't want to pull more unless the healer can't keep up.
If you as a tank don't feel safe to do it, that's ok, but don't be so hard on yourself and try things.

It's so fun when I get a healer that says "pull them all" and I do it even when it looks like we can't survive it.

It's about the whole party, not one role or individual. Strong DPS melt packs making big pulls easier and faster, strong tanks give everyone the stability to perform and strong healers give the tank confidence. Obviously tanks and healers also put out decent DPS as well as soon as everything else is taken care of.