Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
I'm going to be a little blunt. If this FC tank of yours is that afraid, then he shouldn't be tanking in DF. It's completely unreasonable to expect three random strangers to go at a snail's pace in a 70 dungeon because a tank is this anxious. I get that he was new to the dungeon but if we're being honest here, they're all hallway simulators. When you've done one, you've done them all. Players aren't toxic for wanting a faster run, especially in old content.
I'm also going to be blunt. You have missed the point of my post.

I have never said that tanks should pull one group at a time. If they are confident, they should pull as many as they think their team can handle. When I run roulette with my friends, whether I'm healing or tanking or dps, we pull the biggest group we can manage. Sometimes we can pull off Mt. Gulg but that's the trickiest one.

What I am actually asking is that confident, competent players try to help those less confident and competent. If the other three in the Ghimlyt Dark had been sympathetic and helpful instead of insulting and rude, my friend might still be playing. He might have discovered he COULD do whatever it was that was bothering him (mostly that he had never run the dungeon before). Similarly, if the healer is struggling (for whatever reason) try and assist instead of telling them to 'git gud'.

I'm not denying for a second that there are deeply unpleasant people who play poorly and don't care; you can't help them so by all means stop trying if they spit in your face. I've probably encountered as many if not more of those in the 'toxic' DF I am talking about.

Tldr: my friends and I (15 to 20 people depending on where we are in the xpac) don't use the DF unless we absolutely have to because of the number of rude and unhelpful people we've encountered there. So please TRY not to be one of them