"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[Anya_Synia]

I've seen the massive first pull to the boss in Mt Gulg be done in a PUG situation where the tank was lv 79 while the rest of us were 80. We wiped three times but we still did it, because that absolute unit of a tank kept going and never gave up on that pull. We all believed in that pull, we all achieved that pull and let me tell you it felt absolutely amazing.

Try to have some faith in your parties instead of worrying so much about the dungeon halting, live a little!

Big pulls that make you wipe three times is just as bad as single pull runs. The idea of big pulls is to make the run go faster if the party wipes to a pull like that then it's time to reassess otherwise it's just a waste of time. 3 wipes just sounds painful. It's not about living a little its about respecting what everyone wants in the party.

[Xirean]

Big pulls that make you wipe three times is just as bad as single pull runs. The idea of big pulls is to make the run go faster if the party wipes to a pull like that then it's time to reassess otherwise it's just a waste of time. 3 wipes just sounds painful. It's not about living a little its about respecting what everyone wants in the party.

Sounds like what everyone wanted in that party was for that tank to succeed at that pull.

[Nethereal]

Big pulls that make you wipe three times is just as bad as single pull runs. The idea of big pulls is to make the run go faster if the party wipes to a pull like that then it's time to reassess otherwise it's just a waste of time. 3 wipes just sounds painful. It's not about living a little its about respecting what everyone wants in the party.

"The idea of big pulls" is to have fun. Consequently they are also faster than single pulls.
Nothing more fun than overcoming something in real time with other people.