"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[Rinhi]

I really really really hope that DC travel doesn't make it possible to queue into the same content as those posters if they're on primal for some reason
I feel sorry for the few good ones

I'm honestly befuddled by all the hostility towards someone who wants to leisurely enjoy their leisure time. I'm beginning to suspect the difference is generational. I remember being a kid and having to wait hours in line for a single ride at Disneyland. In contrast, when I took my kids, we picked up a fast pass that held our place until we were about 20 minutes out. .

also, just for the record, your generation is where the self-entitled karen/parent thing really took off, so come again? your generation is the one where the inflated sense of self and being egocentric was at it's height
bringing things like apparent seniority is up is big cringe as well, yikes and not pog

[Ronduwil]

also, just for the record, your generation is where the self-entitled karen/parent thing really took off, so come again? your generation is the one where the inflated sense of self and being egocentric was at it's height

I don't know how old you think I am, but I suspect that you're thinking of the generation before mine. When I was a kid, the older generation's entitlement was so prevalent that no one even called it out. That generation also laughed at the idea of someone even trying hard at a video game because they understood that games are for fun and that time spent perfecting your video game play is wasted time that could have gone to mastering a skill that would actually be productive and beneficial to society. Ironically, expecting everyone around you in an MMO to play like a top-tier player to suit your preferences is the epitome of entitlement and egocentricity.

[Xirean]

I don't know how old you think I am, but I suspect that you're thinking of the generation before mine. When I was a kid, the older generation's entitlement was so prevalent that no one even called it out. That generation also laughed at the idea of someone even trying hard at a video game because they understood that games are for fun and that time spent perfecting your video game play is wasted time that could have gone to mastering a skill that would actually be productive and beneficial to society. Ironically, expecting everyone around you in an MMO to play like a top-tier player to suit your preferences is the epitome of entitlement and egocentricity.

Why is the strawman you're arguing against saying people need to be top tier in performance? Nobody is calling for that. People who do single pulls are closer to people who do doubles than the double pullers are to top tier.

[Rinhi]

I don't know how old you think I am, but I suspect that you're thinking of the generation before mine. When I was a kid, the older generation's entitlement was so prevalent that no one even called it out. That generation also laughed at the idea of someone even trying hard at a video game because they understood that games are for fun and that time spent perfecting your video game play is wasted time that could have gone to mastering a skill that would actually be productive and beneficial to society. Ironically, expecting everyone around you in an MMO to play like a top-tier player to suit your preferences is the epitome of entitlement and egocentricity.

so you're saying you're my generation? and yet we're at complete opposites when it comes to this issue...
maybe it's not a generational issue aside and your, dare I say, toxic generalisation about literal millions of people was completely unwarranted and done out of frustrations because your whole argument is based on feelings and nothing else?

[SturmChurro]

Frankly, I think zooming through these dungeons is the proper way to do them. Doesn't even require being top tier, being a zoomer in this instance would be a compliment. Unfortunately, I'm just old enough that I'm not a zoomer, but I'll take notes off that generation for sure.

[Rinhi]

whoever is reading this and thinks, "golly gee, this looks like a great idea", let me tell you:
please. do. not. ever. macro. combat. abilities.
you're shooting yourself in both kneecaps and break both your arms if you do
that's all

[Omedon]

whoever is reading this and thinks, "golly gee, this looks like a great idea", let me tell you:
please. do. not. ever. macro. combat. abilities.
you're shooting yourself in both kneecaps and break both your arms if you do
that's all

If you know your limit and play within it, as I have disclaimed, and structure your macros as a priority spam as opposed to “one press, multiple timed out abilities,” which I personally do not use, the corner of “one more line” is a perfectly viable one to cut within the bounds of “good enough is good enough.”

Source: The many compliments I’ve received tanking through the 60’s in FFXIV… including the group I saved from a terrible wipe.

[Kolaina]

Source: The many compliments I’ve received tanking through the 60’s in FFXIV… including the group I saved from a terrible wipe.

Oh I’d like to hear this big fish. A tank saving a party from a big wipe. Ive seen healers do this. Red mages. Bards back when they had healer lb3. But a tank who simply has to hit something with stance on… now thats a new one. What happened? Macro didn’t follow through, mobs went crazy and you had to hit 2 buttons?

[MaxCarnage]

Source: The many compliments I’ve received tanking through the 60’s in FFXIV…

I imagine it went something like this;

You: I'm new at tanking, sorry if I'm bad
Party at the end of run: You did fine.

It's not hard to be told you did fine as a tank. Have tank stance on and use at least 1 CD and that's already enough to warrant a, "eh, you're not the worst I've seen."

Most people who say they're new at the beginning of the dungeon get encouragement at the end in the form of, "you're fine" or "you did good". Doesn't make you a good player, it just means you made it to the end without the team quitting.

[Jijifli]

Source: The many compliments I’ve received tanking through the 60’s in FFXIV… including the group I saved from a terrible wipe.

Ah, the compliments for "doing a good job" by the great community in DF leveling dungeons? I'm sure our wonderful playerbase wouldn't just be saying that to encourage you to stick with tanking, rather than you actually doing a good job.

It's not like I've heard these empty compliments before. Like, say, to that SAM in Sirensong Sea who had level 50 gear and would be 1 shotted by any unavoidable mechanic, who was told they were doing fine, it was okay, through the entire dungeon. Surely that made it okay. Or the quite a number of cure 1 white mage's I kept getting, specially around Bardam's, who just couldn't keep up, who were told they were doing fine and great, even when we'd die, because they're doing healing, it's clearly not something they're doing wrong.

Heck a friend I got into the game this year told me about some confusion he had while leveling monk and samurai. He'd get frustrated and just do something else, but still be in the dungeon (so, leeching, something I scolded him on), but despite that, would receive compliments and commendations anyways. Literally. Doing. Nothing. Get. Compliment. Course, he could just be talking out of his bum, but given what I've seen (I've had plenty of leech defenders in my time), I wouldn't be too shocked.

So, no, the compliments don't make the macro's perfectly fine. You're still gimping yourself by using them on 99% of skills (The only skills they really do well on are tether buffs like dragon sight, and ground placers like salted earth, due to multiple clicks to use).