"Swift completion" is relative to the game, not the community

[MiaShino]

Me and friends have wall pulled with the grand company squad many many times with no issues.

It is most startling just how much damage they can do when all have offensive tactics maxed. Tis 60% damage boost if am remembering correctly.

[Payadopa]

Just don't listen to the people here.
The reality is that most people are nice and they usually don't care about the speed. It's just the vocal minority here.

Here everyone is a God-tier raider with a purple parse, 5 wives, 11 children and 3 jobs so they only have 11,5 minutes for a dungeon. lol

[BaconBits]

Just don't listen to the people here.
The reality is that most people are nice and they usually don't care about the speed. It's just the vocal minority here.

Here everyone is a God-tier raider with a purple parse, 5 wives, 11 children and 3 jobs so they only have 11,5 minutes for a dungeon. lol

Careful with that straw, you don't want to start a fire now do you?

[Izscha]

Here everyone is a God-tier raider with a purple parse

Only purple ? Damn peasants.

[Rinhi]

Just don't listen to the people here.
The reality is that most people are nice and they usually don't care about the speed. It's just the vocal minority here.

Here everyone is a God-tier raider with a purple parse, 5 wives, 11 children and 3 jobs so they only have 11,5 minutes for a dungeon. lol

seems like you're envious of those competent players that value their time

[Payadopa]

Careful with that straw, you don't want to start a fire now do you?

Yeah, yeah. Something, something echo chamber.

As I said before, the actual community is really nice. I wouldn't worry about the occasional bad apple.

[Kolaina]

Yeah, yeah. Something, something echo chamber.

As I said before, the actual community is really nice. I wouldn't worry about the occasional bad apple.

Yea thankfully I only run into the odd bad apple as you put it that doesn’t care about how much of everyone else’s time they are wasting. The community as a whole is decent about trying to get things done so others can continue on with their next goal

[MirielleLavandre]

I think part of the problem for the OP and maybe also all the tanks who have recently complained of the 'gogogo', wall to wall pull type of attitude is mostly just fear. Fear of messing up and dying, costing the party more time wasted. However, I also think (as a tank main with all tanks done) that this fear is misplaced. With the one caveat of having a good (not awesome, even) healer, tanks should know that YOU WILL NEVER DIE if you use mitigation and self healing skills if needed at points. I think those hesitant to wall to wall pull maybe have just never done it and seen that you honestly have to TRY to die doing those pulls, especially in 80 dungeons.

I think if anxious tanks just let go of the fear of wiping, or dying, they'd see that it is best to just take a carefree attitude of 'I'll just pull everything I can b/c there's no way I'm gonna die anyway' mentality. Then again, perhaps I'm just crazy for thinking like that...but I haven't died at all on a wall to wall pull in all the dungeons and roulettes I do, at least not in recent memory over the past months. Again, with a new healer who is not comfortable with those pulls, and asks me not to - or if I see the dps can't keep up, of course I'll slow down -- that's part of party communication and understanding. But I think not pulling this way, or at least not attempting to, is done out of a misplaced fear that should be dropped // plus you'll have more fun ^^

[Izscha]

You must have no idea about what you're doing to die in dungeons as a tank that's it.
Run -> take a pack 1 aoe -> Run -> take second pack 1 aoe etc -> Wall
Pop a strong CD or 2 little one -> Spam aoe until everything dies.
Kill the boss and repeat until it's done.
That's it, there is nothing more to it unless you're lost with ur abilities or have the reaction time of my 90 yo grandma you cant fuck that up.

[Izscha]

That's not our job to teach others anything ? If you cant at least play somewhat right after hundreds of hours of plays it's on you and only you.
Why bother learning anything anyway, that's others job to carry me and teach me something that i will forget in 5 min and be patient and pat me on the back.
If you're at Stormblood/shadowbringer xpac and you need someone to teach you tanking you're the problem not the "mean toxic df players that expect me to do my job"