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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Everything is scripted in this game, so you can always plan how to use TCJ safely in advance, especially since its ranged. Talking about "random" mechanics honestly makes you sound kinda inexperienced, which would explain why you didn't see the problem with Raiju and don't understand why regular melee attack is better than a gap-closer in that regard. Even something like e6 normal would be an issue with the "garuda bacon strip" mechanic - many a DRG cried for that one due to jumps and even tanks had to hold their dashes. With six nearly unmovable Raijus it would've been a nightmare and that's just one mechanic from the top of my head. I remember there were several issues of staying at max-melee in the last tier as well.



    Are you sure you have actually done it all on NIN? Because there's bind mechanics in the first trial(normal and EX) which align with the 60 second burst and make it impossible to use gap-closers.
    Yes I've done it and no I had no issues with it and yes I do the 60 sec burst windows just fine.
    Garuda wouldn't be a problem your character doesn't charge forward all the way you can still hit them on the outer edge of their hitbox.
    You'd have to have some weird Tank shenanigans going on where the Tank insisted on pulling Garuda in some really weird spot for it to be a problem.
    I am fairly sure I got it in roulettes before on NIN but I am not 110% sure.
    But I do know for a fact that I had no issues with it in EW first EX trial included.

    And yes I am aware that the game has scripted boss fights but that doesn't mean that there is no randomness involved and that other players have no effect on you.
    If I activate Ten Chi Jin and someone decided to run at me and drop AoE under me please explain to me what I am supposed to do about that?
    If you think that makes me sound inexperienced when I call it '' random '' then you're being incredibly pedantic.
    There's a lot of situations where you have to move either close to or after Ten Chi Jin, I don't think NIN should be punished that super hard for it.

    I don't think that regular melee attacks so to speak are inherently better than ones with gap-closers it's a matter of context, however I do think that it worked really well as a re-engage on NIN and made for a very fluid feeling in and out that actually lined up.
    Before you could use a Raiju charge, go out and then charge back in again now you can't and have to rely on Shukuchi which is pretty clunky to use imo.
    There's really not much of a difference now except that it makes for more 1 2 3 spam and a more clunky re-engage.

    Yes Raiju is a 1 spam.
    But it's still different than your 1 2 3 weapon skills and a change in pace and variety.
    I wouldn't have a problem with this either if they kept it as 2 stacks of Raiju, my primary issue is that it's 1 stack ( and also weapon skills still break it ).

    Not really sure if you actually think that Ten Chi Jin is well designed either or if you're only defending it for the sake of disagreeing with me.
    It becomes especially silly to me when you take such issue with Raiju.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 01-04-2022 at 10:20 PM.