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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    From what I can see, it is possible to make it dps neutral via pre-shielding, shielding during phase changes, etc. I do still agree that it should be 660 potency because seeing my GCD heals gather dust during a fight is not a good feeling. Increase the potency of just this one ability, and everything in Sage's kit comes together.

    I just had an epiphany that the healers would feel SO much better to play if all their DPS abilities from GCD healing were DPS neutral, for example raising Afflatus Misery's potency to 930+. This is why I feel like, for Scholar, they should do something similar to also encourage them to GCD shield, mid-fight. That and maybe also nerf all the oGCDs on all the healers to further incentivize this new play style.
    I don't think SCH's mechanics really allow that since SCH's identity lies more in oGCDs than GCDs, unless they decide to have shield breaks feed the fairy gauge instead of Aetherflow usage. But, the fairy gauge doesn't provide any DPS directly. It's just more healing.

    However, if we're talking about SCH's mechanics and DPS, right now, using Aetherflow healing causes a DPS loss since that's one less stack for Energy Drain. This also affects their MP generation. If using Aetherflow healing was like how TBN worked, i.e. TBN breaks, get a free use of Edge/Flood of Darkness/Shadow, then SCH would have one of their core problems fixed.

    It still suffers in other areas, but at least I won't feel like shit for using my stacks as the developers want me to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    I don't think SCH's mechanics really allow that since SCH's identity lies more in oGCDs than GCDs, unless they decide to have shield breaks feed the fairy gauge instead of Aetherflow usage. But, the fairy gauge doesn't provide any DPS directly. It's just more healing.

    However, if we're talking about SCH's mechanics and DPS, right now, using Aetherflow healing causes a DPS loss since that's one less stack for Energy Drain. This also affects their MP generation. If using Aetherflow healing was like how TBN worked, i.e. TBN breaks, get a free use of Edge/Flood of Darkness/Shadow, then SCH would have one of their core problems fixed.

    It still suffers in other areas, but at least I won't feel like shit for using my stacks as the developers want me to.

    Of course they'd still have their oGCDs but they'd have a reason to supplement those with their GCDs. The Fae Gauge just needs an overhaul. Quite frankly, since Scholar's true identity comes from their stratagems and tactics, I kinda wish they would just take focus away from the fairy and create a new meter which would allow for the usage of said new, powerful tactics/stratagems. The summoning of aetheric beings is Summoner's thing, anyway, and if the devs really want to separate the two, this is one way to do it.

    Well the problem there lies in the fact that a damage ability uses the same resource as healing. Sage doesn't have this issue which is why it looks so much better to play. I feel like they should just replace energy drain with a GCD damage ability that procs off shield breaks, or something, that doesn't consume aetherflow, while figuring out another way to not have aetherflow overlap.

    Edit: Wait, I got it: What if dissipation was reworked so that you eat your remaining stacks to fill the fairy gauge or augment something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Well the problem there lies in the fact that a damage ability uses the same resource as healing. Sage doesn't have this issue which is why it looks so much better to play. I feel like they should just replace energy drain with a GCD damage ability that procs off shield breaks, or something, that doesn't consume aetherflow, while figuring out another way to not have aetherflow overlap.
    SCH functionally breaks without a way to dump Aetherflow stacks as we found out at the beginning of ShB. Fey Union directly feeds off of Aetherflow usage. Dissipation generates extra Aetherflow stacks. Without Energy Drain or healing demands that require that much Aetherflow usage, SCH does not work. I know because I was there.

    Aetherflow is SCH's core mechanic and also its core issue. With SGE having a similar mechanic, I'd rather SCH get reworked to have something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    SCH functionally breaks without a way to dump Aetherflow stacks as we found out at the beginning of ShB. Fey Union directly feeds off of Aetherflow usage. Dissipation generates extra Aetherflow stacks. Without Energy Drain or healing demands that require that much Aetherflow usage, SCH does not work. I know because I was there.

    Aetherflow is SCH's core mechanic and also its core issue. With SGE having a similar mechanic, I'd rather SCH get reworked to have something else.
    That's what I was saying. There needs to be another way to dump unneeded stacks.
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