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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    There's a saying I recently heard that I think applies: "If it looks stupid, but it works, it's not stupid."

    True optimization goes beyond class, it involves working with the party to figure out how to squeeze the most damage out of every possible avenue. It's not unheard of for a Dark Knight to TBN a dps who pulls even today honestly, just because the lower Def value helps break the barrier and give the drk their free Edge. Add onto that the Samurai getting something out of it too? You might see Dark Knights and Samurai getting along famously.
    In paper, yes.
    But in practice, It's not gonna work with PUG, with people who never done it before, might work with static but who knows.
    Still looks stupid nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    In paper, yes.
    But in practice, It's not gonna work with PUG, with people who never done it before, might work with static but who knows.
    Still looks stupid nonetheless.
    Are we talking optimization, or pugging?

    Hypothetically if Samurai pulling was optimal, it wouldn't be the first time that an odd pull-habit was used. There were times back in StB where Bards built a sizable aggro lead for the tanks who would then voke off of them, which was possible because of abilities like Cover and TBN. That's all my point is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Are we talking optimization, or pugging?

    Hypothetically if Samurai pulling was optimal, it wouldn't be the first time that an odd pull-habit was used. There were times back in StB where Bards built a sizable aggro lead for the tanks who would then voke off of them, which was possible because of abilities like Cover and TBN. That's all my point is.
    I can't say for Tank but for DPS, you don't need to make yourself look stupid to do high dps though.
    If you do high numbers in the first place, your dps will be high regardless. Even without unmethodical stunts.
    The point is " Is the potencies increased worth the trouble ? "
    It's only 10 kenki in SAM case, not 50 kenki so it's not worth it for me.
    but if the Tank I run with wants me to pull then I don't mind.
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