Meoni Interview with Yoshida- Sage vs. Scholar

[Recon1o6]

I mean scholars are only really complaining about

All their dots being stripped
All their debuffs being stripped
Most of their utility stripped
Missing selene
Unresponsive fairy
ghosting fairy
poor fairy embrace ai and lack of manual embrace
Being locked out of their kit on dissipation
Being locked out of their kit when seraph is using the fae tether
Bane and shadowflare missing
Energy drain constantly getting taken away
Energy drain constantly being nerfed
Potencies being nerfed with no thought given to content where those potencies are important (ie ucob and uwu)
silly animations like art of war
lack of damage causing mobs to take forever to kill
terrible levelling kit

and more but i have barely touched sch so i can't really comment further.

[Sebazy]

The key point here is going to be how Sage's inflated self potency stacks up vs how powerful Chain is.

I can see a lot of healers having to prog as SCH if Savage lands with some stern DPS checks. I'd be inclined to guess that this is the reason that SCH got what appears to be a bit of a raw deal when taken in isolation.

[rewd]

The key point here is going to be how Sage's inflated self potency stacks up vs how powerful Chain is.

I can see a lot of healers having to prog as SCH if Savage lands with some stern DPS checks. I'd be inclined to guess that this is the reason that SCH got what appears to be a bit of a raw deal when taken in isolation.

Are Sage's potencies inflated, though? SGE has no oGCD damage spells, so its GCDs kinda have to be more powerful, otherwise it wouldn't be able to compete with Assize, Energy Drain, Star and Lord.

[EaMett]

Are Sage's potencies inflated, though? SGE has no oGCD damage spells, so its GCDs kinda have to be more powerful, otherwise it wouldn't be able to compete with Assize, Energy Drain, Star and Lord.

Can't really count on potencies being final but I think it's stupid strong in the media tour iteration. I think it was something like SCH > AST has 10-15% more DPS than SCH > WHM has 10-15% more dps than AST > Sage is somewhere here, above WHM. I'll double-check the potencies again (since I'm basing this off of the leaks). That's without raid buffs of course, so AST should line up with WHM in the end. But I have a hard time seeing chain making that much up though. Again potencies aren't final so it might be a futile exercise to compare them like this, but I believe that this is part of the reason why Sebazy said that.

We also need to account for mobility and stuff. SCH is looking a little more on the static end. At least in an optimized setting where you would want to avoid ruin II at all costs. (though I will admit to not diving into number crunching since the embargo lifted)

[Sebazy]

My thinking is that being able to dump it’s Phlegma charges with raid buffs will add up pretty nicely. Take Chain out of the mix and I can’t see SCH being remotely close. Chain is pretty tasty though and I can’t see groups being too keen to give it up.

[Gemina]

Meoni asked Yoshida about the flashiness of Sage and the short talk time about Scholar and wondering if Yoshida had anything planned for Scholar to make Scholar players not feel left out.

Yoshida basically apologized for that saying it was his fault...

I certainly appreciate that he voiced his awareness of how it made us feel, and took full accountability. It took him a bit to actually get to the question. The impression I got from his answer sounded like this in my head, "Competitive with Sage? If anything we had to design Sage to be able to compete with SCH."

When looking at things from this perspective, it's easy to see that SCH is spoken for. It has multiple expansions under its belt, while SGE is fresh out of the academy. The real question is in huge contrast to Meoni's. "Despite its flashy appeal, can Sage even hope to compete with SCH?"

I guess I can understand if this is where Yoshi is coming from. When you think about it, the issues SCH has prevents it from being just this God of a healer. They're like Anima, and still crazy strong despite the binding chains. While it's cool to think about SCH that way, I don't think it's a valid reason to not acknowledge the issues SCH has. I don't want to feel like I'm 'bound by chains', and that is indeed how the job feels right now.