Mr Happy Interview with Yoshida: Glare Mages

[SweetPete]

While I do agree that suddenly dropping wont decrease savage clear rates on the short term I think you're underestimating the newbies and people coming from other games, how many newbies wanting to raid will stick to a class that is 1 button spam?

I see them making the same mistakes that lead to 1.0 not listening to the playerbase and being out of touch of their game and its not good at all, healers right now are like the retirement pension some countries have, its sustained on the constant pumping of fresh blood into the system but what will happen when that fresh blood stops pumping (something that eventually will happen)? That's the point where I'll see those clears decreasing due to awful system they've created

I’m sorry but didn’t the game subscriptions increase? I mean sure maybe because of certain people but it increased and from the looks of it, it seems like they are enjoying themselves and having fun. I’m not saying the healer role is perfect. I’ve just accepted what they have now tripled down on and no subs lost. They know they have a hit game and they will continue with what they are doing. It’s just facts.

The same mistakes 1.0 made? Yeah 1.0 was terrible but once they brought the OG jobs back and it gained momentum again. Point is as healers we gone continue to spam that 1 dps skill. If the healer vets don’t like it trust me there are more than enough healers who will love take your spot in your raid static. Yoshi P has now tripled down on it. Nothing we can do. Complaining and threatening with loss of savage healers isn’t gonna change anything.

This whole situation is just a broken record at this point.

[WaxSw]

I’m sorry but didn’t the game subscriptions increase? I mean sure maybe because of certain people but it increased and from the looks of it, it seems like they are enjoying themselves and having fun. I’m not saying the healer role is perfect. I’ve just accepted what they have now tripled down on and no subs lost. They know they have a hit game and they will continue with what they are doing. It’s just facts.

The same mistakes 1.0 made? Yeah 1.0 was terrible but once they brought the OG jobs back and it gained momentum again. Point is as healers we gone continue to spam that 1 dps skill. If the healer vets don’t like it trust me there are more than enough healers who will love take your spot in your raid static. Yoshi P has now tripled down on it. Nothing we can do. Complaining and threatening with loss of savage healers isn’t gonna change anything.

This whole situation is just a broken record at this point.

The subs are increasing and there are more people but that doesnt mean the healer number in high end content has increased much, in fact right now healers are the most wanted role of all and most of the people who enjoy healers now are from a casual perspective, some of them will raid as healer and I dont doubt even if vets quit now clear rates wont change much but that only goes on for so much, there will be a moment where the sub count wont increase that much and when that moment comes is when this awful design will make healer numbers in raid enviroments go down because no matter how much you like it, pressing the same button over and over and over in scripted fights with no depth gets old real fast and thinking that new healers wont eventually get bored of that I think its underestimating them.

Maybe I'm high on copium but I'd rather leave the role or play sage and let the other healers to rot and keep complaining than do nothing because the former still has a small chance of getting things fixed and the latter wont ever fix anything besides in this game it woudnt be the first time the devs had to change their ways.

[Its_Elodie]

I was a scholar main until this last tier when I went WHM to accommodate our new Noct AST. I raided from UCOB to Edens verse savage as a shield healer and Omega was my favorite raid/tier. The mechanics, complexity, music…and scholar was such a fun job to play. Now it’s an emaciated carcass of a dead horse and they continue to kick it in the teeth. This seems to be the general course for the healer role, minus Sage IMO. It’s kinda unfair for the other jobs, Sage can’t be the only fun healing job to play I knew something was wrong when I started enjoying content again as a tank. Healing and the developer course for it has left such a bitter taste in my mouth I can’t do it anymore. I’m giving my role back to my old longtime cohealer so he can play Sage and get more enjoyment out of it than I will in the Expansion.

All I can say is try dps/tank if you can and see if you get enjoyment out of it while we continue to voice our disdain/concerns with the current course for healers. They obviously aren’t concerned now about primarily tailoring healer jobs for casuals, but if the higher end players stop queuing for the higher tier content like savage, and PF’s get harder to fill because the casuals are reluctant to touch it they might hopefully reconsider their course. Hit them with the numbers, it’s the only thing they seem to understand. Monk, summoner, and bard got their reworks. I hope healers will too if we keep our voices heard and are persistent enough.

[BooPoo]

The subs are increasing and there are more people but that doesnt mean the healer number in high end content has increased much, in fact right now healers are the most wanted role of all and most of the people who enjoy healers now are from a casual perspective, some of them will raid as healer and I dont doubt even if vets quit now clear rates wont change much but that only goes on for so much, there will be a moment where the sub count wont increase that much and when that moment comes is when this awful design will make healer numbers in raid enviroments go down because no matter how much you like it, pressing the same button over and over and over in scripted fights with no depth gets old real fast and thinking that new healers wont eventually get bored of that I think its underestimating them.

Maybe I'm high on copium but I'd rather leave the role or play sage and let the other healers to rot and keep complaining than do nothing because the former still has a small chance of getting things fixed and the latter wont ever fix anything besides in this game it woudnt be the first time the devs had to change their ways.

My wild guess is that healer numbers in raid doesn't even matter that much to the overall game. Most people probably don't even do savage raiding. And in normal raiding again it's all casual players so rarely would anybody care about 1 button spam. You probably overestimated how much the raiding portion attracts players (especially the new ones) to FFXIV.

[BooPoo]

I was a scholar main until this last tier when I went WHM to accommodate our new Noct AST. I raided from UCOB to Edens verse savage as a shield healer and Omega was my favorite raid/tier. The mechanics, complexity, music…and scholar was such a fun job to play. Now it’s an emaciated carcass of a dead horse and they continue to kick it in the teeth. This seems to be the general course for the healer role, minus Sage IMO. It’s kinda unfair for the other jobs, Sage can’t be the only fun healing job to play I knew something was wrong when I started enjoying content again as a tank. Healing and the developer course for it has left such a bitter taste in my mouth I can’t do it anymore. I’m giving my role back to my old longtime cohealer so he can play Sage and get more enjoyment out of it than I will in the Expansion.

All I can say is try dps/tank if you can and see if you get enjoyment out of it while we continue to voice our disdain/concerns with the current course for healers. They obviously aren’t concerned now about primarily tailoring healer jobs for casuals, but if the higher end players stop queuing for the higher tier content like savage, and PF’s get harder to fill because the casuals are reluctant to touch it they might hopefully reconsider their course. Hit them with the numbers, it’s the only thing they seem to understand. Monk, summoner, and bard got their reworks. I hope healers will too if we keep our voices heard and are persistent enough.

I'm thinking the opposite, if a lot of people FLOOD to play and main SGE in EW. They might consider moving other healers in the same direction. And that's probably a good path.

[Gemina]

I'm not exactly sure what to say. I know I'm familiar with a lot of the feedback in this thread, as over the years I have been on the receiving end of it for saying the exact same thing Yoshi did in that interview. I see that hearing it straight from the horse's mouth doesn't do much to mitigate its impact.

It's not my intention to boast and say I told you so, but it has also never been my intention to perpetuate false hope. That is why I have strongly encouraged adaptation, and to let go of the idea of getting additional DPS elements added to healer gameplay because it is strongly apparent that Yoshida has no intention of breaking or even bending in this regard. He seems to feel as strongly about it as he does in-game parsers.

You are free to take that as you will, and to shred this post apart. I assure you, I've heard everything you want to say. You will still have to ask yourself what you're going to do about the information that has been presented to you.

I still believe that this team can be convinced to at least reward offensive skills to healers for playing them as intended. They have scratched the surface of this, and it can be expanded upon. SCH still has a near worthless gauge, and WHM lilies are still passive. Even beyond those, there are ways. They just have to be willing to explore it. For example WHM's new Lily bell: There is no reason why it can't explode for AoE damage if the WHM has stacks left. That would make it one hell of a rewarding skill to use. But it's passive, just like everything about WHM.

Anyroad. That's all I have for now.

[ForteNightshade]

I don't see why you're laughing at someone who signed up to support their team with a combination of damage and well planned heals, coming up with a derogatory term for people who want to spend their time twiddling their thumbs and overhealing.

Healbots are, hilariously enough, terrible at serious healing. They have no plan, no resource management, no clue how their co-healer functions, no efficiency. They just overheal, waste their cds and go headless chicken mode when heavy damage happens or zone out when someone needs a clutch oGCD.

I will never forget my experiment in late Heavensward. I decided that if my co-healer didn't turn on Cleric Stance within 20-25 seconds from when the encounter started, I'd let them solo heal since they obviously didn't want to do damage. I made exceptions for new players and tried to recover when it became clear they weren't able to handle things. The sheer amount of healers I saw how had literally no idea what to do was downright staggering. I even had one in full accuracy melds attempt to blame me for running out of of MP in the first phase on Alex Normal; before the adds. Why did he run out of MP? He spammed Medica II for every single problem. Was rather amusing when the DRK called him out saying she was a healer main and even solo-healing never came close to running dry.

Obviously, this was a long time ago. But it really goes to highlight just how bad the "Healbots" are. And makes it further ironic when they keep demanding for more to heal.

[SweetPete]

All I can say is try dps/tank if you can and see if you get enjoyment out of it while we continue to voice our disdain/concerns with the current course for healers. They obviously aren’t concerned now about primarily tailoring healer jobs for casuals, but if the higher end players stop queuing for the higher tier content like savage, and PF’s get harder to fill because the casuals are reluctant to touch it they might hopefully reconsider their course. Hit them with the numbers, it’s the only thing they seem to understand. Monk, summoner, and bard got their reworks. I hope healers will too if we keep our voices heard and are persistent enough.

The vets voiced their disdain and utter anger for over 2 years now and come Endwalker nothing has changed. Yoshi P even tripled down on what shadowbringers healers was. The complaints went nowhere there and it won’t go anywhere now. Sorry just saying.

[SweetPete]

I'm not exactly sure what to say. I know I'm familiar with a lot of the feedback in this thread, as over the years I have been on the receiving end of it for saying the exact same thing Yoshi did in that interview. I see that hearing it straight from the horse's mouth doesn't do much to mitigate its impact.

It's not my intention to boast and say I told you so, but it has also never been my intention to perpetuate false hope. That is why I have strongly encouraged adaptation, and to let go of the idea of getting additional DPS elements added to healer gameplay because it is strongly apparent that Yoshida has no intention of breaking or even bending in this regard. He seems to feel as strongly about it as he does in-game parsers.

You are free to take that as you will, and to shred this post apart. I assure you, I've heard everything you want to say. You will still have to ask yourself what you're going to do about the information that has been presented to you.

I still believe that this team can be convinced to at least reward offensive skills to healers for playing them as intended. They have scratched the surface of this, and it can be expanded upon. SCH still has a near worthless gauge, and WHM lilies are still passive. Even beyond those, there are ways. They just have to be willing to explore it. For example WHM's new Lily bell: There is no reason why it can't explode for AoE damage if the WHM has stacks left. That would make it one hell of a rewarding skill to use. But it's passive, just like everything about WHM.

Anyroad. That's all I have for now.

Agree with everything you said. I feel the same way. This fight for more dps or damage going out to heal is just not something SE wants to do. So I’m over complaining about it. I’ve just adapted to it. Had to because I enjoy the healer role.

I love what I see about Sage and im gonna main it. It looks amazing. Those sound effects hehe.

[KDSilver]

People will demand veteran competency as standard and if they don’t see it they will leave, troll, or groan the whole instance.

We're not asking this for DPS or Tank. Why should it be a thing for Healer?
Again, it's like healer live in a completely parallel world.

As long as you seem to care a little bit and trying to understand what's going on, no one's asking for supra high hardcore optimized gameplay 100% of the time; especially if you're new, levelling or else.