Square Enix should really address dungeon loot drops...

[Jettinson]

DPS have probably the worst time for grinding sets in dungeons if you are not running a party finder. Leave it to another layer of RNG if you both DPS are caster as an example and fight for that random piece of gear that you might see it after a number of runs.

And i speak as a tank that took so much time to get the alliance fending coat. Having good rng in these dungeons does not make any unique or satisfactory. You get that shoet burst of happiness and toss the gear into your tiny limited glamour dresser lol.
You get token for extreme fights in case your luck is absolutely painful until 99 runs for the mount.
Also I realize triple triad players are also in a constant pain to get cards from dungeons or even in side content instances, my god.

[aveyond-dreams]

DPS have probably the worst time for grinding sets in dungeons if you are not running a party finder. Leave it to another layer of RNG if you both DPS are caster as an example and fight for that random piece of gear that you might see it after a number of runs.

When I was grinding the Shadowless caster hat and I saw another caster in the party, I started dropping from runs after a while. I've all but given up on getting the NieR caster chests from Copied Factory and Puppet's Bunker since I kept getting paired with 2-3 other casters who would always get their pieces despite running these raids hundreds of times over the course of this expansion.

Maybe if I was able to make steady progress with a token system I would continue to engage with that content, but at this point I have no reason to invest further time into these raids. I can only hope that I can get my loot while the lockout is still in place for Pandemonium and Myths of the Realm, which seems better by comparison than dealing with the current situation.

What's the point of 'rare' thing to be obtained easily?

Eureka weapons are rare but there isn't rng tied to the grind, it just takes a long time. I'd rather do that again than continue running content that offers 0 compensation for my efforts.

[kiagenwa]

Eureka weapons are rare but there isn't rng tied to the grind, it just takes a long time. I'd rather do that again than continue running content that offers 0 compensation for my efforts.

That's my point. Why would someone get stuck up with a certain item that are difficult to get because RNG?
Card? Mount? Glam?
AFAIK, these things are not that they have no replacement. It's just players being collectors.

Which is not a bad thing, mind. It's just that you gotta play with how tough it is :/