Do not sign up as tank if you do not want to ACTUALLY tank

[Jeeqbit]

I suggest making a party for DR in party finder and put in the description "bring essences".

The quality of people who use party finder is higher than the people who queue for it, because people who queue for it are likely to be a new or returning player that does not understand much about the game like essences and does not think of using party finder for anything.

There is also more pressure to not be lazy when you join someone's party that is demanding essences than if you queue into a duty finder party that nobody is the leader of.

When I hear about stuff like this I have to remind myself this is not WoW and I'm still considered new to FF14 with only 1 week of being lvl80.
But I still find it amazing to hear these types of things happening and the fact that you guys run with 4 tanks in a 25men raid is almost unbelievable.
Tell me---Does a proper raiding FC also run with 4 tanks in a full-size raid or is that only the duty finder?

I'm not saying there are not raiding FCs, but it's not like WoW where you have to be in a raiding guild to raid. The main "hard" raids (which consist of 8 people) are frequently made up of people from different servers who cannot be in the same FC but are in a discord server together.

There are not very many "hard" large-scale raids like in WoW. All of the 24 player raids are casual content that is puggable by queueing like a dungeon.

This post is talking about DR normal (which is a puggable 24 player raid). The only one which is meant to be hard is one that was released this expansion which is the savage version of DR and that can have up to 48 players. These are usually done through large discord servers that organise 48 people to do them rather than through an FC (so if you are interested you can look at joining the discord for it).

The only other one that is meant to be hard is from the previous expansion and it's not that it's hard, it's that the consequences of making a mistake can leave you dead or cause everyone to be ejected from the raid and that there is not a queue mechanism to make it easy to pug.

[Xtrasweettea]

I'm still waiting on DPS to sign up to actually deal damage.

[Kyrj]

As a DPS i've tanked many a DR Tankbusters.

DR savage on the other hand....

[Jeeqbit]

the fact that you guys run with 4 tanks in a 25men raid is almost unbelievable.
Tell me---Does a proper raiding FC also run with 4 tanks in a full-size raid or is that only the duty finder?

I forgot to say that in these raids, tanks can make themselves like a DPS using certain essences although not all of them will. It doesn't matter if there are a few more tanks than needed because the use of essences and lost actions will still make the run much faster than duty finder.

[LianaThorne]

When I hear about stuff like this I have to remind myself this is not WoW and I'm still considered new to FF14 with only 1 week of being lvl80.
But I still find it amazing to hear these types of things happening and the fact that you guys run with 4 tanks in a 25men raid is almost unbelievable.
Tell me---Does a proper raiding FC also run with 4 tanks in a full-size raid or is that only the duty finder?

I think you should run normal DR and then come back to us since having 4+ tanks in there is pretty common. I've been in DF parties where we have 7 tanks and 1 DPS in a party. I've also has situations where there are 0 tanks and people just leave cause no one wants to take on the job. Lol.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

When I hear about stuff like this I have to remind myself this is not WoW and I'm still considered new to FF14 with only 1 week of being lvl80.
But I still find it amazing to hear these types of things happening and the fact that you guys run with 4 tanks in a 25men raid is almost unbelievable.
Tell me---Does a proper raiding FC also run with 4 tanks in a full-size raid or is that only the duty finder?

Delubrum Reginae Normal (DRn) is a 'special' kind of alliance raid that doesn't take account of your chosen job's roles (as is any other Save The Queen related side content). Like others had mentioned, getting matched into a party of 8 healers/tanks/dps is possible however unlikely it is. That being said, if people wish to distribute their surplus of <insert role>, they can do so inside by communicating. Usually it's the healers that gets traded around.

[StriderShinryu]

I generally agree with the thrust of this thread though it's rarely been my personal experience in either Bozja at large or in DR. More often I've seen situations where there's not enough tanks to go around, or just enough for the number of parties.

That said, if you are playing a tank job you should at least be open to tanking if the need arises. I get that maybe you want to be a DPS job or you like the tank DPS kit or whatever, but at the end of the day you're still joining as a tank. If you end up in a group with 7 other players and you're the only tank then drop the DPS essence and actually tank.

Heck, I was just running around in Bozja South the last couple of days as Warrior to finish levelling it. I wasn't even in a group and was basically just going around doing Skirmishes and whacking stuff in the face with my axe but if I ended up doing a Skirm with a healer or DPS getting smacked I put on my tank stance and pulled/held aggro. Even if I was running around and saw a mob randomly chasing someone who was running short on life I'd still try to pull aggro off and save them. I had no real interest in tanking but I was a tank so I tanked when I needed to.

[Dogempire]

Even if you take the responsibility and main tank sometimes it screws you over like if you take the tankbuster for the last boss and the healers are tunnel visioning on the 1 button they have to press to do damage

At least for me I won't tank without either a bloodsucker essence or a pure essence on a warrior, plus the debuff cleansing kits that are stupidly rare in case the healers aren't paying attention

[Poporito_Popoto]

You're not the boss of me/You don't pay my sub.

[Jeeqbit]

Even if you take the responsibility and main tank sometimes it screws you over like if you take the tankbuster for the last boss and the healers are tunnel visioning on the 1 button they have to press to do damage

At least for me I won't tank without either a bloodsucker essence or a pure essence on a warrior, plus the debuff cleansing kits that are stupidly rare in case the healers aren't paying attention

Dark Knights don't usually get the doom if they use Blackest Night + Shadow Wall. If all of the damage is absorbed into a shield completely, doom does not get applied.