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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I think they mean gameplay wise. Yes you want at least 1 ranged and 1 caster.
    But on the execution, there is no difference mechanically wise. There is no "Physical ranged mechanic", only "ranged mechanics"

    The line is drawn by the mobility tools, how you execute the ranged mechanic.
    And in ShB, there was no ranged mechanic that specifically required a P.Ranged to deal with it, or that it was the most optimal way.
    Correct, you explained it better than I could.
    What the devs formally endorse and how the game substantially plays are two different things. But even if we consider party composition, it makes the most sense to have 2 ranged and 2 melee dps. The number of available jobs (and the way they're balanced) should reflect that. And right now, we have 6 ranged dps and 4 (soon to be 5) melee dps.
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    My personal pick for a new Phys Ranged would be Gambler wielding twin pistols. You could roll dice for random buffs that slightly change up how you use your attacks, plus a Luck Gauge you build up over time that you can use to manipulate probability to get better outcomes.
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    Lord Metallium
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    I still would like a artillerist since what i read is mostly true that machinist is more machine than guns, again Laguna in dissidia have a lot of weapons he can swap, why can't yoshi p like do that in anew range? what i want is a new scifi class that has that more modern gun settings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Now when it comes to the next physical range, I am convinced it will be a crossbow-wielding Ranger, or another gun-wielding job since MCH is becoming more about machines than it is about guns.
    The videos that was shown from Lost Ark here is basically Machinist to be honest.
    what about a Artillerist class? make sure you watch everything dude

    The videos that was shown from Lost Ark here is basically Machinist to be honest- also about this true scouter uses a drone but the utility of advance weaponry like the assault rifle and futuristic setting makes up for it, what we need is a new gun class either a gunslinguer or a Artillerist with a transforming cannon, Guns should not have machines.
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    Last edited by LordMetal7; 10-14-2021 at 02:30 AM.

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    Dear Yoshi P here are some example of Lost Ark Blasters and Scouters:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aK6V44F9I

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2xaZgE4D0Q

    I hope he ssees this for inspiration either he can add new skills for the Machinist next expansion or he can create a new ranged class based on these.
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Since MCH is complete deluded by gcd bs and hardly uses its gun anymore, I’m actually down for a gunner job that actually feels like a gunner job even at the risk of wasting a slot as the devs simply don’t care to add any gun aesthetic to MCH anymore and the fan base is to dim witted to call MCH anything but perfect and polished
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  7. #27
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Since MCH is complete deluded by gcd bs and hardly uses its gun anymore, I’m actually down for a gunner job that actually feels like a gunner job even at the risk of wasting a slot as the devs simply don’t care to add any gun aesthetic to MCH anymore and the fan base is to dim witted to call MCH anything but perfect and polished
    I mean, we see the suggestion to have mostly viable endgame class (or alt-job) variants... what... at least thrice per month? When Bard seems increasingly converted to an Arcane Archer and there's no way to actually experience a more core Gunner experience otherwise, etc., you can see why.

    And yes, I'd second that wish, albeit likely as a Corsair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Since MCH is complete deluded by gcd bs and hardly uses its gun anymore, I’m actually down for a gunner job that actually feels like a gunner job even at the risk of wasting a slot as the devs simply don’t care to add any gun aesthetic to MCH anymore and the fan base is to dim witted to call MCH anything but perfect and polished
    well its name is Machinist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    well its name is Machinist
    Well it’s main hand is a gun, your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Well it’s main hand is a gun, your point?
    think about it
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