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  1. #11
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Corsair basically been turned into Machinist
    but i wouldn't put it pass them doing another gun job with Vincent/FFX-2 inspiration
    Caster it would probably be some sort of heavy support job similar to DNC
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    Raveen Raines
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Casters and physical ranged have always been separate in my mind.

    Casters have now gone the longest without a new job.

    Post 2.0 we got:
    Melee - NIN, SAM, And now reaper
    Physical ranged - Machist, Dancer
    Healer - Astro, and now sage
    Tank - dark knight, and gunbreaker
    Caster - red mage

    Blue mage doesn’t count as you can’t use it for any modern content.
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  3. #13
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    Archwizard Drake
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    In my mind, the top pick for a 4th ranged job is a Dual Pistol specialist, probably an Aerslaent-based Pirate-type like Musketeer or Corsair.

    Though for 7.0, the next full job to come up in rotation would either be Caster DPS (due to every other role being filled in the prior two expansions), or another Melee DPS to share NIN gear (since DPS are 5 melee to 6 ranged at the moment, BLU aside). Personally I think GEO is next most likely Caster (since the alternatives are Time Mage which overlaps AST and like... I dunno, Green Mage? Which isn't exactly super popular), but hey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    Possibly Beast Master?
    Unfortunately for this idea, the top bet for Beast Master's unique weapon was Whips... before Bozja established 14's Beast Masters are predominately melee combatants who wield 1H Axes and Shields.

    But in all likelihood, BST is tied with Puppetmaster (Mammetmaster?) as the next most likely Limited Job, should they continue on that trend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mezzoforte View Post
    Its pretty obvious the next DPS up to bat is going to be a DoT focused caster with them pruning dots.
    Alternately it could also mean the exact opposite, that the pruning of DoTs is a step away from having any DoT jobs at all.

    My understanding is the devs have previously expressed some disdain for DoTs, since players find them tedious and confusing. After seeing how SMN manages its DoTs, I'm not sure I can blame them.
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  4. #14
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    Casters and physical ranged have always been separate in my mind.

    Casters have now gone the longest without a new job.

    Post 2.0 we got:
    Melee - NIN, SAM, And now reaper
    Physical ranged - Machist, Dancer
    Healer - Astro, and now sage
    Tank - dark knight, and gunbreaker
    Caster - red mage

    Blue mage doesn’t count as you can’t use it for any modern content.
    Simply counting the jobs we have now

    4 tanks, 4 heals (including EW), 5 melee dps (including EW), 3 Range DPS and 3 Range Caster

    yeah I think if we getting new DPS, it would be range or caster that make most sense
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  5. #15
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sequora View Post
    Casters and physical ranged have always been separate in my mind.
    That's an artificial distinction. For all intents and purposes, casters and ph. ranged are all ranged jobs just with different degrees of mobility (and it looks like SMN will become almost as mobile as ph. ranged...).
    Also we need a second job that uses scouting gear. And I would personally welcome a weird hybrid job that uses scouting left side and casting right side and has a 2-phase rotation (melee and physical -> ranged magical burst with a few cast times). I know the devs like to play it safe, but that's the kind of unexpected things I personally like.
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  6. #16
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    [physical ranged vs magical ranged is] an artificial distinction.

    It's a distinction endorsed by the devs, and the devs are slow to deviate from their own established patterns.
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It'll probably be a Scouting DPS and an Aiming DPS.
    On the Scouting side, there is always a melee job & there is still only one scouting job. On the Aiming side, there is always a ranged job & there is technically a ranged casting job being added in this expansion so a ranged non-casting job would seem a fairly safe bet.

    The Scouting thing feels rather arbitrary to me and I personally think one of the melee armor sets should probably be scrapped, bring it in-line with ranged armor sets, but I doubt they will, so they'll probably add another job to that group.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 10-12-2021 at 10:07 PM.

  8. #18
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post

    It's a distinction endorsed by the devs, and the devs are slow to deviate from their own established patterns.
    I think they mean gameplay wise. Yes you want at least 1 ranged and 1 caster.
    But on the execution, there is no difference mechanically wise. There is no "Physical ranged mechanic", only "ranged mechanics"

    The line is drawn by the mobility tools, how you execute the ranged mechanic.
    And in ShB, there was no ranged mechanic that specifically required a P.Ranged to deal with it, or that it was the most optimal way.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 10-12-2021 at 09:49 PM.

  9. #19
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    Shanon North
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    Raiden
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Taking FFXI into account, I think Corsair or Puppetmaster are very real possibilities as far as future phys ranged go

    But (at least one of) the next DPS addition(s) will probably be a caster instead
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    Hugo Narigo
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Blitzballer
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