Living Dead: Problem List

[Claire_Pendragon]

I think the best feedback is them screwing over this job much enough until everyone has a problem; that's when they will take any action.

Never going to happen. DRK is the only job with its extremely popular weapon choice, and the only tank with its extremely popular aesthetics. Those 2 visual elements are the sole reason DRK remains so popular. Yes ppl play it for being super easy 123 job, or for TBN on learning content, but they are 100% the minority of DRK players.

SE looks at jobs being played, and jobs being ignored. This seems to be ONE of the main ways they determine if they should do anything about a job. The last time SE said they would fix DRK, DRK was being played, but the SECOND way to get their attention, was that PuGs were preferring WAR/PLD for cheese strats, and DRK had none.

I've had another direction I'd like to see Living Dead go --

*slow clap*
Absolutely amazing design. Not only in functionality, and UI QoL updates, but also for that classic FF feel.
Currently GNB is the only tank with a "Sacrifice HP" for a benefit design, which should have clearly been DRKs.
With your suggestion, you may not be sacrificing HP, but that loss of HP comes extremely close, as it is a "cost" of sorts. Almost making DRK feel like a classic DRK, rather than Lineage 2's Magic Tank.

[Shin96]

Never going to happen. DRK is the only job with its extremely popular weapon choice, and the only tank with its extremely popular aesthetics. Those 2 visual elements are the sole reason DRK remains so popular. Yes ppl play it for being super easy 123 job, or for TBN on learning content, but they are 100% the minority of DRK players.

SE looks at jobs being played, and jobs being ignored. This seems to be ONE of the main ways they determine if they should do anything about a job. The last time SE said they would fix DRK, DRK was being played, but the SECOND way to get their attention, was that PuGs were preferring WAR/PLD for cheese strats, and DRK had none.

I'm not going to disagree with the gist of this statement, but that feels super self-defeating. They are going to do it when we annoy them just enough. You essentially have no justification for the butchering of this job, even more so with the addition of strange enhancements in 6.0. There will come a point when this is not a go-to tank anymore. The thought of having enhanced Unmend will put off some people as well.

Jobs being played doesn't necessarily imply there's a grain of satisfaction. The whole point of picking a main is being comfortable and having fun. So when people clearly dislike parts of this job, does that give them a right to patronize us into submission? Not sure that's the actual issue at play here.

[Claire_Pendragon]

-dont give up-

Im essentially saying dont get your hopes up. Im still not playing the class. Back before it came out, I said, no matter how complex a 2h sword tank would be, id play it and master it. I want it too badly... well here we are, where the opposite is true, and its just too boring to play. So if im already not playing it, theres not anything I can do about others playing it. Im not going to tell them they cant enjoy it.

semi unrelated story...
Ironically, me and a friend returned to the game after 2 years, and we talked about changes from SB, and if WAR or DRK was the easier tank. 5 people left the LS because they thought I was insulting them as players, by saying its mechanically easier to use a oGCD to get your dmg buff, than it is to go through a GCD combo to refresh your buff. I never mentioned them, or said ppl who play DRK or WAR were bad players. I just said IF someone was struggling, DRK and WAR are good options for doing harder content. (along with exceptions as to how WAR/DRK might even be harder, in the right circumstances.)

[Shin96]

Im essentially saying dont get your hopes up. Im still not playing the class. Back before it came out, I said, no matter how complex a 2h sword tank would be, id play it and master it. I want it too badly... well here we are, where the opposite is true, and its just too boring to play. So if im already not playing it, theres not anything I can do about others playing it. Im not going to tell them they cant enjoy it.

I think some people have been invested in this job. The lack of identity is a real issue with DRK. It doesn't set out to be different or unique its in own way.

Here's the thing. No one is trying to diminish the enjoyment others take out of DRK. Of course I would wish for it to be similiar to 3.0 in most aspects, but they took a different route. Let's say this is your main for any specific reason. It's unreasonable to just take things as they come. Look at 6.0 DRK, it's sorely disappointing. I mean people aren't asking for much (maybe I do), but realistically giving this job more self-sustain options isn't a bad choice. Well they didn't this time. It's too bad I got emotionally attached to this job, otherwise I'd probably complain about nothing else, since for the most part I'm fine with this game.

If things remain this way, I can only safely hope Reaper won't walk in the same shoes as DRK did. If Reaper turns out to be worth my time, I might be willing to let go of my greatsword. All those relics will be worth nothing, maybe you can see why I grew so much towards this job.