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  1. #1
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    Chrisnetika's Avatar
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    Mia Sjasarish
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    Alpha
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    Alchemist Lv 90

    Rescue needs to stop

    I get it's purpose and what it can do if it used in it's intended way but lets be frank, it open to be used as a griefing tool.As a healer using rescue for it's intended use can help get others out of bad situation or if they are not familiar with mechanics that I cannot argue however the flipside is it prob gets used more to cause harm. Today I was running puppets bunker with a friend of mine and at last boss idk but I got singled out by devious plan (not sure if they were group of friends or what not) but what happen was during a mechanic with the ball splits and you have to gather in safe spot which i was in the healer went to unsafe zone and rescued me into it so I die on purpose. Then in party chat they all laugh and joke about it like it normal.. like it's a meme but it was most childish toxic behavior. I know i'm not only victim of this and i'm sure there more stories like this so coming back to the point on hand something needs to be done with rescue.Times I have it used on me when I don't want it used on me and well aware of mechanics but got used on me anyway when trying get bit more dps out.I think it can be reworked so it used on certain condition like if it a new player or if it's the players 1st time in the dungeon/trial/raid .Or least give an option that allows us to prevent rescue being used on us that does not want it used. I will not go as far to say remove because again there are legit times when it's useful however the griefers need to be stopped.Meme generation childish mentality going on to fuel griefing behavior is very detrimental towards the experience.
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    Anya Synia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If we removed or changed something every time someone used something to grief someone. We wouldn't have anything left in the game. Just report them and move on rescue is fine as it is. There have been loads of positive uses with it. If people start ticking a box that they dont want it used on them then it becomes a useless skill.
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    Dega Devilson
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    How do you report people
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dega666 View Post
    How do you report people
    You can contact the support ingame. On PC it´s "ESC and customer service / infos -> contact tab. Don´t know where to find it on PS. But i highly doubt that someone is getting banned or so for using rescue, unless they´re starting to insult you afterwards in the chat. Sometimes it might be a missclick too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Rescue is kinda boring...i shouldn't have to save someone from an AoE, sometimes they have to learn
    There are fights, where the ppl which needs a rescue can´t do anything about it. Ramuh EX is probably the prime example. You haven´t done anything wrong, when others don´t free you. So rescue is a great tool.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Arkhon Dullgaroth
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    Ragnarok
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    Please no.
    There is already so little interaction and synergy left in combat between players, so having to get rid of one of the last "remnant" of these kind of abilities would be a bad idea. (Can't really view things like raids wide spells as interesting "interactions")
    Doing this, as said up, would be the equivalent of opening the pandora's box, after that who knows what we'll have to get rid of.
    As of today, during fights it already feels like we are "playing at the same time as others" rather than "playing with others" with the lack of interaction, so the more we go this way, the less it's gonna be enjoyable (for me at least)
    I can stand some idiots, easy to avoid them or even play with friends, but a stale and boring gameplay, not so much.
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    Chrisnetika's Avatar
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    Mia Sjasarish
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    Clearly some of you failed to read what I wrote, tbh I had low expectations to think anything good would come from posting here so let me rephrase. I DID NOT say remove rescue I simply said not everyone wants to be "rescued" because it used as a tool to grief. Simply said what needs to be changed is allow people to opt from it somehow with exception to new players or players during duty for 1st time. Reason why griefers exist and things continue to happen is basic attitude of all here to let it all be and just ignore it. Ignoring problems does not make it disappear.. it just affirms them to be accepted.
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    Anya Synia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisnetika View Post
    Clearly some of you failed to read what I wrote, tbh I had low expectations to think anything good would come from posting here so let me rephrase. I DID NOT say remove rescue I simply said not everyone wants to be "rescued" because it used as a tool to grief. Simply said what needs to be changed is allow people to opt from it somehow with exception to new players or players during duty for 1st time. Reason why griefers exist and things continue to happen is basic attitude of all here to let it all be and just ignore it. Ignoring problems does not make it disappear.. it just affirms them to be accepted.
    I will point out at that you didnt read all my post then I also stated it becomes a useless skill if people can opt out on it.

    You also lose credibility and point of the discussion when you attack the forum. If you want a discussion attack the points being made and not people themselves.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    If death in the game had meaningful consequences, then i might be inclined to agree with you. As is, it just doesnt. Report if they were really obnoxious(black list if needed), and move on.

    And FYI, you can dodge their rescue if you REALLY want to. Your ability to prevent knockback/other forced movements works on rescue. That requires you to see the sneak attack coming and predict that you will be the target(or reflexively hit your skill any time someone runs out of a same spot), but it does totally work. You could also run in the opposite direction they went to the far edge of the safe zone - for some attacks this can put you outside rescue range.
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    Reinhardt_Azureheim's Avatar
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Alpha
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Rescue isn't the only way someone can troll with. Any role for that matter can mess people over.

    Tanks can drop cleaves and busters on people or can manage enmity with toggling stance and using Shirk. Are we gonna remove AOE busters and enmity tools now?

    DPS can drop cleaving mechanics on other players to troll them or leave puddles in undesirable locations. We gonna remove AOE mechanics?

    Healers can select how to heal and can choose to not heal you, they don't need rescue to mess you up. Are we going to remove healing from healers now and make it all a personal job to recover HP?

    Do you realize how stupid your request is?
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