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    Cherub's Avatar
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    Miasma Eschaton
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post

    SGE is the only one with what could be called a "burst", the issue is that it has no self buffs in spite of what was said in past LLs. So its "burst" is just dumping all your powerful long-CD-GCDs and one offensive OGCD right at the start and then just using them on CD until they line up again... it's only really a burst when other people are using their raid buffs.
    You don't have any oGCD DPS tools for Sage. Phlegma is on the GCD. Toxicon too. Pneuma too. What else is there that does damage? I dont think anything else that would make people think oGCD. Other than that you got your Dosis and the AoE. Both obviously GCD.
    This is what worries me the most, no oGCDs like Assize, no raid DPS utility like Chain, no self buff like PoM... The potencies are higher, sure, but is it gonna be enough? I do have my doubts tbh. If tooltips are to be trusted, the only other thing SGE got going is a recast GCD of 1.5 seconds on the dot only. Which isn't much but something. Over a 10 minute fight that would be I think 8 extra Dosis GCD's lol.
    Alongside Taurochole having a direct heal instead of a shield or regen effect (potentially leading to overheal when you just want the mitigation) and how addersting works and what it rewards, this is my main worry/issue with SGE.
    But who knows, maybe Phlegma releases as an oGCD on release. Hopefully. maybe.
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherub View Post
    But who knows, maybe Phlegma releases as an oGCD on release. Hopefully. maybe.
    Phlegma being released as an oGCD only convinces its use to be spent rather than using it as a DPS tool because it's free DPS like assize. Having Phlegma be a GCD action encourages its use to be a movement & weaving tool as well since it's an instant cast tool only under close range. It puts more emphasis on positioning and using it as a heavy weave tool, but also gives it flexibility to be used in other ways thanks to having a 2-charge system.

    This enables Phlegma to be used use it under raid buffs if you think you don't need the extra weave slots. Additionally, it breaks up the medicorum of spamming Dosis III over and over.

    Sure, you can just dump your Phlegma charges all on raid buffs since you can have a 1.5 sec cast time on Dosis III, but if you end up needing to double weave, you've essentially screwed your Dosis III damage by clipping your extra oGCDs unless you have some adder's sting charges for instant cast weaves. Even if you want to refresh your DoT early to get instant cast weaves, Sage's DoT isn't a skill with 2 weave slots. Eukrasia takes 1 second recast on the GCD before enabling Eukrasia Dosis, so you still only have 1 weave slot every GCD in your toolkit unless you spent one to GCD shield for adder's sting.

    That means not losing a single Dosis III usage is going to be more important compared to other healers.
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