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    Specific amount of items available anytime soon?

    I'm sick and tired of the MB players buying an entire listings for specific products and then lobbing it all back twice as expensive AND in 99-stacks. Imagine choosing desired quantity and paying only for items you want ....
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    People suggest this fairly often but it's not that simple. Buying in any quantity heavily favors buyers while hurting sellers. A random person selling a random item they got from a quick venture may not be affected, but the actual material suppliers sell things in specific quantities for a reason, and they don't want to be stuck with extra items any more than you do.

    Just look at the real world. If I walk into a store I can buy a single candy bar, or a big bag of 30 candy bars, but I can't say "well I only want 10" and rip open the bag to take only what I want. I'll get kicked out of the store if I do that. The store and the candy company clearly wanted to sell things in those specific quantities. You may not like it, but that's not the store's problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    If I walk into a store I can buy a single candy bar, or a big bag of 30 candy bars
    except you can't because they only have 99-candybar packs!!! Which is my problem exactly. I'd happily buy 10 of them individually :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    People suggest this fairly often but it's not that simple. Buying in any quantity heavily favors buyers while hurting sellers.
    As a seller, I'd gladly take the hit. QoL and access to items should not be withheld from players so we can make a tiny bit more profit.

    There are far bigger issues for sellers anyway, such as crafting and gathering being far too easy so supply is through the roof and bots being rampant. I'd rather they addressed that instead of denying QoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    As a seller, I'd gladly take the hit. QoL and access to items should not be withheld from players so we can make a tiny bit more profit.

    There are far bigger issues for sellers anyway, such as crafting and gathering being far too easy so supply is through the roof and bots being rampant. I'd rather they addressed that instead of denying QoL.
    problem is, how much will that QoL improvement aid the bots.

    I'll happily put up with no QoL improvements if it means the bots get inconvenienced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    problem is, how much will that QoL improvement aid the bots.

    I'll happily put up with no QoL improvements if it means the bots get inconvenienced
    Doubt adding the ability to buy partial stacks or even buy orders would make a significant difference for bots.

    As for no QOL for the sake of inconveniencing bots, it would kill the game because it would become too tedious for players while doing nothing to the bots because tedium has zero effect on their ability to function.

    If you want to inconvenience the bots, get rid of those who pay to benefit from their existence. Going to be really inconvenient if they don't have any customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Doubt adding the ability to buy partial stacks or even buy orders would make a significant difference for bots.

    As for no QOL for the sake of inconveniencing bots, it would kill the game because it would become too tedious for players while doing nothing to the bots because tedium has zero effect on their ability to function.

    If you want to inconvenience the bots, get rid of those who pay to benefit from their existence. Going to be really inconvenient if they don't have any customers.
    yeah, I agree. ban the buyers. since bots are "too elusive to be caught" according to some, then the only alternative is to ban the buyers.
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    Consider it an opportunity for profit by going out, gathering the item yourself then selling off what you don't need to other players who also only want the small stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuaTuo View Post
    Imagine choosing desired quantity and paying only for items you want ....
    It'd be fantastic if the market system was only ten years out of date instead of twenty, yeah. Adding both the ability to buy partial stacks and the ability to create buy orders would be a humongous step forward- no more specifically tailoring stacks of stuff I'm selling using 15 retainer slots, can just put stacks of 99 up and let people pick off what they need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurida View Post
    It'd be fantastic if the market system was only ten years out of date instead of twenty, yeah. Adding both the ability to buy partial stacks and the ability to create buy orders would be a humongous step forward- no more specifically tailoring stacks of stuff I'm selling using 15 retainer slots, can just put stacks of 99 up and let people pick off what they need.
    1.0 allowed buying partial amounts!
    This was a deliberate change they did for ARR.

    Also SE bring back my personal bazaar! ;-;
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    http://king.canadane.com

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