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    Hugh_Mercer's Avatar
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    Hugh Mercer
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    Leatherworker Lv 90

    Why is the MSQ heavily dependent on groups?

    I cannot for the love of me; sum the courage to join random pugs. I've tried my best to solo content in ARR but now it's impossible for I'm now on lvl 50 hard mode trails and such. I can't believe I managed to solo that far but this reliance on others is a huge punishment for someone like me.

    I have nothing to bring to the party; except guilt and remorse. Does anyone have any tricks or tips on getting to lvl 60 in ARR? I might be able to solo the trails then.

    I must be really stupid for asking but I feel trapped.
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    DBriggs304's Avatar
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    Fu Soya
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 55
    I think you can still level via side quests, potd, ect. But you just can't progress through the msq.

    And there will still be required group content at 60's, 70's, and 80's.
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    Ezekiel Book
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 72
    As a newbie to the game, I've found that just saying "Hey, first time here" or somesuch has gotten good results in people being forgiving, and sometimes even explaining the fights. If you're DPS, you just hit things like normal. If you're a tank, you just try and hit everything. If you're a healer, keep the tank alive, but I doubt you're playing healer if you don't like being in a group.

    And if you're talking about a Raid, in ARR as I discovered, mostly you'll just be hanging around in a group, and other people will mostly be killing things for you. It's a little frustrating actually, but you don't have to worry much about not doing anything.
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    Hugh Mercer
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    I can't bring myself to rely on others for anything. It feels wrong as hell. I don't know man; but every time I do sum the courage to ask for help in game I get these over whelming positive comments and It seriously makes me choke. It's physically hurting me when homies display acts of kindness when I have nothing to give in return.

    This sounds like a personal problem I know; But I suppose years in WoW can force you into that habit of always needing to give to receive.
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    You don't have to discharge your obligations immediately. Just be determined to get good enough to help out other people later on.
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    Hugh Mercer
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    Leatherworker Lv 90
    It's not that I'm helpless; My gameplay is mostly optimized. I've leveled as many classes as I could and I'm confident I have better reactions then most.

    It's that I have to extend my hand to others. It burdens me, so I must search for an alternative. As pointless as that may be.

    I apologize, shouldn't of even posted this problem as selfish as it is. At least I know what the palace of the dead is now.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Mercer View Post
    I can't bring myself to rely on others for anything. It feels wrong as hell. I don't know man; but every time I do sum the courage to ask for help in game I get these over whelming positive comments and It seriously makes me choke. It's physically hurting me when homies display acts of kindness when I have nothing to give in return.

    This sounds like a personal problem I know; But I suppose years in WoW can force you into that habit of always needing to give to receive.

    The game is inherently a multiplayer experience, as much as the story wants to focus it's narrative on you.
    Just keep in mind that by using random players you are giving them something. You're filling a slot to get the dungeon or the fight over with. You're helping them do what they want.
    You don't have to do anything special.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Jenna Starsong
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Mercer View Post
    It's physically hurting me when homies display acts of kindness when I have nothing to give in return.
    Maybe try thinking about it from a pay-it-forward perspective. As new player you may not have anything to offer now, but down the road you'll be able to help future newbies in the same way.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    I know it sounds harsh (I'm sorry lol)
    but dear Lord, get over yourself. Nobody cares in DF. It's 15 minutes of spamming AoEs without anyone talking. It's not an earth shattering event. You'll be fiiiiiiiine~

    /pat on back
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    Well I cared enough to to mention it and now I wish I could delete this thread.

    *hits head against a wall* just kill me already
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