SAM macros?

[Acece]

Unless you have a mod macros feel terrible to play with. Would not recommend.

[HollyJolly]

Hello, long story short I'm spending the last couple of months before expac gearing and leveling SAM as I will be maining it in EW. I'm currently 77 and still have to get shoha at 80 and I'm feeling button bloat. Is there any useful macros that can help with this?

This guy complaining about buttons, not damage. Macros gonna help with that.

You guys with ur imaginary % numbers and stuff are just making things up to hurt people who genuinely ask for help with a problem that can easily be fixed with a macro.

[ssunny2008]

This guy complaining about buttons, not damage. Macros gonna help with that.

You guys with ur imaginary % numbers and stuff are just making things up to hurt people who genuinely ask for help with a problem that can easily be fixed with a macro.

Facts you can research are no imagination. And to fix such an issue, you need to practice.

I´m pretty sure you or the OP could get ride of half the skills on the bar. You would do more damage with 123-456 repeat or 123 procc -123 procc and a rolling GCD than using macros across the whole board, just because you want to use everything. In case of SAM on PS4 you need only 14 buttons to perform well. Everything else is just on top / aoe spam. It shouldn´t be too hard to bring them on 2x8 bars you can swap with one button. All you need is to practice the button flow.

If you feel hurt by the truth or clear facts, then i don´t know...

[HollyJolly]

Facts you can research are no imagination.

Pretty sure research u research and dont share is fake news.

And I already said my damage with macros is more then it was before.

You guys just hating still.

[ssunny2008]

Pretty sure research u research and dont share is fake news.

And I already said my damage with macros is more then it was before.

You guys just hating still.

https://www.fflogs.com/character/na/...lly%20jollycat
https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/b6PMgR42kQZtcWNr/5/67
https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/Yzy6kMT1ZqcKhnWr/1/15

I don´t think that those are fakenews. And i don´t blame you for whatever reason you cry about imo. That macros cause a huge disadvantage is a fact. And imo you should try to play the core rotation without a GCD loss. Delay all off gcd´s if it´s too much. I´m convinced it´s more damage and still "easier to play" than using macros.

[Darkstride]

Its so much easier then having so many buttons, but people hate you if you do it because they are haters for no reason.

My alternative to using macros for skills was to just not use the skill. Basically anything over an 8-10 button range and I'd just not push it because really who cares.

No one is being "haters for no reason". Because of the combat design, macros are fundamentally inferior to using the abilities as intended. Can you use macros? Sure. But you're doing a disservice to yourself if you care at all about playing your job well. The fact that you said you're alternative to macros is to just not even use more than 10 skills is pretty enlightening.

You're of course entitled to your opinion, and you can play the way you want. However, peddling macros as a viable way to reduce your button presses to less than 10 is just reckless and misleading for people who genuinely want to learn and play their jobs well.

[Mikey_R]

Then you should practice without macros and you will do even better.

[RinaB]

I think I should clarify some things before this simple thread turns into a war of macro opinion. I started playing in the fall of 2018, got to 70 as ninja and switched to tanking by about early spring 2019. I've been tanking ever since and for personal opinion reasons I have decided to stop. I mained DRK and GNB(if I wanted a change of pace) and I never felt button bloat. I had all my mitigators grouped nicely and conveniently located and the only macro I needed was my salted earth macro. I dont like Alts so I really dedicate myself to my job and my HUD/Buttons. SAM has a lot going on and I actually quite like the pace of it even though I'm still improving as I hit 80 last night. I try and use feint every tank buster I can and I use true north and second wind all the time so I'm not missing out on extra kinky gauge. Like HollyJolly said it's a button issue not a rotation or class issue but off the top of my head I can't really think of how to make things smoother atm which is why I was asking, this is not about macros optimizing dps it's about quality of life lol.

[ssunny2008]

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Nobody is talking about optimization. It´s more about "How worth are Macros?" and they aren´t worth anything, unless you want to waste your and your groups time.

As i´ve said, you can perform well as SAM with 14 buttons. Even less if you don´t use stuff like Meikyo anyway. Feint, True North, Third Eye, etc... it´s all not needed if you don´t want to be a pro. But that you actually use such stuff says that you seem to care about your performance (DPS) in some way. Macros will cause a huge loss in DPS and the overall gameplay-experience.
It´s up to you, but i would still recommend to practice at a dummy. Take care about the "not needed" stuff after you´re fine with the 14 core-keys.

[Mikey_R]

Are you making use of the expanded and/or W crossbars? There is enough space for all jobs on 3 crossbars and the vast majority can be done on just 2. From there, it is a case of finding a setup that suits you. For me personally, I only use the Expanded Crossbars for most things and I use the fact I don't need to see the cooldown of everything to know when I can use it. EG. since all GCD actions share a cooldown, I can 'hide' some in the hidden crossbar and still know the timing for them. Then there are some things like Shinten that essentially only has the Kenki restriction, so that can go in the back as well.

It isn't hard to make some sort of layout to use, the challenge is finding something that is comfortable to use, so never be afraid to move things around if you feel it would be better suited somewhere else.