SAM macros?

[RinaB]

Hello, long story short I'm spending the last couple of months before expac gearing and leveling SAM as I will be maining it in EW. I'm currently 77 and still have to get shoha at 80 and I'm feeling button bloat. Is there any useful macros that can help with this?

[Arkdra]

Hello, long story short I'm spending the last couple of months before expac gearing and leveling SAM as I will be maining it in EW. I'm currently 77 and still have to get shoha at 80 and I'm feeling button bloat. Is there any useful macros that can help with this?

No. Macro's are almost always a detriment and while there are a couple of exceptions, none of them apply to samurai.

The problem with combat macros is that they don't buffer. Buffering means that the game can kinda pre-register your input to make sure it goes off the exact split-second it becomes available. This is also the thing that enables slide-casting. Macro'd abilities do not buffer. As such, anything you macro builds inherent delay and leads to dps loss.

The couple of exceptions for this were dropping ground targetted aoe's centered on your target and maybe the odd mouseover macro. I used to have a mouseover macro for Goad back when that was still a thing and I do still have a shukuchi macro on nin, but that's it.

[RinaB]

Hmm...that's unfortunate as I play on ps4p.

[Kahnom]

Hmm...that's unfortunate as I play on ps4p.

I play on ps4 as well and yes, SAM got a bit of buttons bloat but still manageable.
You might not have enough room for some self-heal role actions but that's ok.
Also don't put merciful eyes on your hot bar. that skill is even more useless than MNK's Anatman.
And to answer your question, Don't use Macros.

[Darkstride]

As the other person said, macros for combat abilities as DPS are typically going to be detrimental.

Are you using the expanded cross-hotbar options? I find that to be sufficient for all of my jobs.

[Jiyuni]

As a fellow controller player I have no issue with button space for SAM. As Darkstride pointed out, you have expanded cross-hotbar and double tap for what you cant fit on the two normal cross hotbars. Work to Game on youtube has great controller setup guides.

[HollyJolly]

I have macros for all my jobs except white mage.

You won't find a guide on them really since majority of ppl will just tell you "macros in combat are bad" and if you pursue it further they become enraged for no reason.

I use macros because instead of having 9 buttons to push I'll combine the ones that can be combined together to make 1-2-3 buttons.

My monk went from 16 buttons down to 5 buttons for damage attacks.

I macroed fan dance into my dancer's buttons so everytime fan dance is up itll cast itself automatically without me having to push a button.

I macroed my dark knights attacks so I only have 3 buttons, 1 for melee, 1 for range and 1 for aoe. With the shields and stuff combined into 2 other buttons so I just have 5 buttons I need to push to tank.

Its so much easier then having so many buttons, but people hate you if you do it because they are haters for no reason.

Macros follow a 1 second design meaning ur macros can only be in full seconds. 1, 2, 3, 4 seconds before it will start the next skill.

So if my skill speed is 2.5 then I need to macro the next ability to 3. Don't forget to account for server lag, which might make ur 2.5 actually a 3.5, but it varies you can test them to find out what works best.

My alternative to using macros for skills was to just not use the skill. Basically anything over an 8-10 button range and I'd just not push it because really who cares.

So using macros for me means instead of not pushing it, the macro automatically pushes it for me when its ready so I think thats better. Also I seem to do alot more damage now then before so people don't really complain to me when I'm in a group.

Anyway, they are really useful, but I couldn't find guides on it so I had to work it out on my own. Makes the game more fun for me since I'm not always looking at what buttons I have to push and getting hit by everything

Also like to add I got the idea of macroing skills together from the PVP buttons where sometimes they do 2 skills together, which really made alot of sense.

[RinaB]

Its def notba cross bar issue for me its mostly about optimization. I have separate bars to monitor my other crossbar cds etc. I removed merciful eyes as stated above because the heal is such trash and im typically topped up pretty quick after an aoe so that helped a bit. Shoha feels underwhelming but im obviously gonna use it and keep it. I suppose I will just keep playing and slowly move some buttons around into the most optimal positions for myself.

[Garnix]

I have macros for all my jobs except white mage.

You won't find a guide on them really since majority of ppl will just tell you "macros in combat are bad" and if you pursue it further they become enraged for no reason.

I use macros because instead of having 9 buttons to push I'll combine the ones that can be combined together to make 1-2-3 buttons.

My monk went from 16 buttons down to 5 buttons for damage attacks.

I macroed fan dance into my dancer's buttons so everytime fan dance is up itll cast itself automatically without me having to push a button.

I macroed my dark knights attacks so I only have 3 buttons, 1 for melee, 1 for range and 1 for aoe. With the shields and stuff combined into 2 other buttons so I just have 5 buttons I need to push to tank.

Its so much easier then having so many buttons, but people hate you if you do it because they are haters for no reason.

Macros follow a 1 second design meaning ur macros can only be in full seconds. 1, 2, 3, 4 seconds before it will start the next skill.

So if my skill speed is 2.5 then I need to macro the next ability to 3. Don't forget to account for server lag, which might make ur 2.5 actually a 3.5, but it varies you can test them to find out what works best.

My alternative to using macros for skills was to just not use the skill. Basically anything over an 8-10 button range and I'd just not push it because really who cares.

So using macros for me means instead of not pushing it, the macro automatically pushes it for me when its ready so I think thats better. Also I seem to do alot more damage now then before so people don't really complain to me when I'm in a group.

Anyway, they are really useful, but I couldn't find guides on it so I had to work it out on my own. Makes the game more fun for me since I'm not always looking at what buttons I have to push and getting hit by everything

Also like to add I got the idea of macroing skills together from the PVP buttons where sometimes they do 2 skills together, which really made alot of sense.

People online will basically never encourage sub-optimal playstyles. On most forums about pretty much any game, people will encourage playing optimally. And yup, that means: no macro.
I am sure you can have a better DPS output with macros than some bad players do without macros to be honest.
That said...I would be very curious to see your macros. How do they handle downtimes and things like that?

[Acece]

Unless you have a mod macros feel terrible to play with. Would not recommend.