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[FoxCh40s]

In all honesty legit nothing....and I mean it

Scholar is the "problematic" child of ffxiv and the reason why? Is because they are the jealous type and feel threatened with any new healer put into the game

I remember back in ARR days where legit every scholar threatened to quit the game just because they felt threatened over the "new" astrologian job, and that it looks more "flashy"

Nah, that's not the case, the reason it got nerfed (Scholar) is because of jealous people who didn't understand the class and how it worked at all. With proper application of skill, and good Scholar was worth more than a good white Mage and astro combined.

Scholar was good because the game was tailored to favor it with encounter design. It was the single most well designed job besides Warrior in the HW and ARR days. It was literal perfection, and people couldn't handle that notion. So everytime we got overgeared to hell, people started complaining that Scholar was OP, when they forgot that early leveling Scholar was much harder than White Mage and Astro due to lack of options.

Scholar had the inability (beyond an exceptionally exceptional Scholar) to handle a large amount of mistakes and excessive burst healing requirements. Succor has always been weak, and so has Adlo. The only thing that people complained about was an occasional crit that would nullify every kind of healing requirement, and could be used to super cheese mechanics.

What they don't realize, is in order to make effective use of that, Scholar had to use vast amounts of MP fishing for Crits on a Warrior to do so, which quite frankly was never garunteed.

Scholar being in the state it is now is due to the fact of a vast majority of big ol cry babies not being able to handle a superiorly designed job and a clear and unique class advantage.

The reason why the game is in the state it is now is because of these exact complaints. That people were jealous of another Job's capabilities, regardless of job, and refusing to go play that job and understand it otherwise.

Tldr, people wine a lot, and really don't understand the game.

[Hurrican]

Scholar being in the state it is now is due to the fact of a vast majority of big ol cry babies not being able to handle a superiorly designed job and a clear and unique class advantage.

what a spectacle.

Crying baby is crying about crying babies

[Semirhage]

Yeah Scholar was never OP. It merely warped the entire healer metagame around itself and was superior to the other two combined! Oh how maligned the poor Scholar of eld was. Now the darn dirty Stormblood and Shadowbringers changes destroyed its birthright throne and took it from its rightful place of being better than everyone else.

Sometimes when I'm angry about the awful treatment healers get, I look at Scholars raging that they're not the unquestioned stars of the show by divine right anymore with the other two fighting over the sidekick slot and think... it's not just the devs that have learned all the wrong lessons from the last two expansions.

[FoxCh40s]

Yeah Scholar was never OP. It merely warped the entire healer metagame around itself and was superior to the other two combined! Oh how maligned the poor Scholar of eld was. Now the darn dirty Stormblood and Shadowbringers changes destroyed its birthright throne and took it from its rightful place of being better than everyone else.

Sometimes when I'm angry about the awful treatment healers get, I look at Scholars raging that they're not the unquestioned stars of the show by divine right anymore with the other two fighting over the sidekick slot and think... it's not just the devs that have learned all the wrong lessons from the last two expansions.

This is the exact sentiment that got us where we are. Myself and other Scholars advocated for balance and superior job design for all the other healers. We wanted everyone brought up to Scholars enjoyment level, not everyone being brought down to White Mages bare bones play style.

We could have cared less about damage, numbers, healing, all of that was irrelevant. We enjoyed how the job was SOOOO satisfying to play. Managing cooldowns, dots, planning efficient timing and use of abilities. Spot healing for our other co-healers.

A Scholar's ultimate class fantasy was being of use, being a pure tactical assistant to an otherwise all powerful co healer. We made up for the other healers weaknesses, and they made up for ours. Pure synergy between the other jobs was absolute euphoria.

But because people refused to understand WHAT made Scholar so good (i.e. an incredibly invested, well knowledged player base for the job) they have cut it off at the knees, and now enjoy watching the entire role suffer, just to have petty satisfaction that a job that was "OP" was nerfed.

[Roeshel]

We could have cared less about damage, numbers, healing, all of that was irrelevant. We enjoyed how the job was SOOOO satisfying to play. Managing cooldowns, dots, planning efficient timing and use of abilities. Spot healing for our other co-healers.

Wasn't Selene deleted because she was useless? Where is the fun of being useless?

I don't see a lot of people playing old Scholar if they had to put twice as much effort to be on par with everyone else because right now this is true to some extent and people don't like that.

If I played FFXIV in previous expansions I would have mained Scholar without a second thought because they were better than anyone in anything and not so much because of the gameplay itself.

[FoxCh40s]

Wasn't Selene deleted because she was useless? Where is the fun of being useless?

I don't see a lot of people playing old Scholar if they had to put twice as much effort to be on par with everyone else because right now this is true to some extent and people don't like that.

If I played FFXIV in previous expansions I would have mained Scholar without a second thought because they were better than anyone in anything and not so much because of the gameplay itself.

Selene was the more useful near the end of expansions when we didn't need the extra healing potency.

She was never useless. Her AoE cleanse added later was fantastic, and the Fae Wind buff made a noticeable difference in speed of clears. They decided to remove Selene because they do not understand how Scholar works.

Who said we had to put twice as much effort in? Where was that said?

[Roeshel]

Who said we had to put twice as much effort in? Where was that said?

Well, because when you compare old Scholar to old White mage you will see that Scholar has more going on than White mage which means that they have to put more effort into playing optimally than a WHM.

[KDSilver]

Yeah... I don't understand how they could have design old scholar the way it was and yet not understanding what's going on now.
Was it pure luck?

[VictoriaLuv]

again.. lmao play sage scholar is dead

[FoxCh40s]

Well, because when you compare old Scholar to old White mage you will see that Scholar has more going on than White mage which means that they have to put more effort into playing optimally than a WHM.

Because original White Mage was straight forward. Aero instant cast, Aero 2 hard cast, Aero 3 hard cast, Stone -> Reapply dots.

Roeshel, can you please refrain from replying with sparky comments on things you weren't around for? It just makes you look, severely misinformed is the polite term I will use.

You have no clue what it was like to play back then, be quiet and let the FF14 "Adults" talk.