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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenstrauch View Post
    Yes. But one thing you've probably noticed is that the number of available characters never dips below 4. That's because we need a minimum of one character per slot: One Tank, One Healer, and Two DPS. This essentially means that unless we see a significant increase in the available trust NPCs, at least four of the Scions can't be permanently removed from the action.

    This gets more extreme, however, if the developers expand trusts to include Story Trials. They have talked about wanting to do so in an older interview, so it's possible that Endwalker will launch with all three of its Story Trials being Trust compatible. Unless the number of available trust NPCs expanded considerably, this would not only mean that all 7 currently available Trusts would be guaranteed to survive until the end of Endwalker, but we'd even have to have an additional character join, and they would also have to be permanently available for the duration of the story.
    I think if Trusts were going to be used in trials, wouldn't they have announced it already?
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  2. #22
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    Leih'to Molkoh
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    At the end, all the scions will "ascend".
    Y'shtola, Thancred, Urianger, Alisaie, Alphinaud, Estinien, G'raha, Krile, Tataru, Lyse, Arenvald and F'lhaminn somehow force the rejoining of their souls. They become the Twelve. And sacrifice themselves to save the world. And then WoL is sent a few thousands years to the past, and creates a religion based on his fallen friends.

    In all seriousness, I think the Twins will have a death fake-out. I can see their mother sacrificing her life to save them or something like that.
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  3. #23
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Omi Senu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    In all seriousness, I think the Twins will have a death fake-out. I can see their mother sacrificing her life to save them or something like that.
    What about a double-fakeout?

    Like, oh a fake death of twin x, then turn around a BOOM, real death of twin y?
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    I don't think any of the Scions will die, but if one has to then:

    - 60% chance it's Alphinaud via a sacrifice to save the realm, mirroring Louisoux's sacrifice. Alphinaud's life dream has been seeing the realm united and at peace so I feel he would sacrifice if it meant seeing that dream come true.

    -30% chance it's Urianger via reverse maximum IQ 4d chess xanatos gambit. In the past he has twice, paraphrasing his own words, "bargained with coin not his to spent" so I think it'd be fit that for his biggest plan he would bargain with his own "coin".

    -10% chance it's Alisaie. I really doubt this one since the only reason why it would happen is for the sake of having an impact on Alphinaud's arc.

    -0% chance it's G'raha Tia or Estinien. They already had their spotlight arcs respectively from which they survived, so killing them now would serve no purpose other than for :GASPIKACHUFACE: shock value

    - -10000000000% chance it's Thancred or Y'shlotta. Not only because of their popularity, but also the fact that they both had major death fake outs in Shadowbringers that would have perfectly capped their stories had they sticked, so killing them now would just be dumb and S8 Game of Thrones level of storytelling.
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  5. #25
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    Both Zodiark and Hydaelyn will be gone. Once we beat The Sound, there will be no need for Zodiark, and then there will be no need for Hydaelyn.
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    I have a strong feeling Alphinaud will result someone close to him end up dying.
    He have grow a-bit since Crystal Brave, but he is still very idealistic, I am afraid Estinien would be the strong candidate that sacrifice himself protecting Alphinaud for the “mental maturity”
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  7. #27
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    Daemon Inazuma
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Here's my predictions:

    Scions (A team):
    • 75% Alphi - with his grandfather's dream (and Alphi's) coming to fruition, he's the most likely to bite the dust, Probably in an act of saving his sister from her reckless behavior.
      35% Alisaie - highly unlikely, but she is Alisaie, part of the WOL crew after 6.0.
      25% Urianger - Potentially saving a twin or both. Retires with Thancred.
      10% Thancred - Going to retire due to being "too old for this s***."
      0% Y'shtola - Plot armor thicker than a bank vault, off to the First to marry Runar.
      0% Graha - Writer's pet, part of WOL crew after 6.0.
      0% Estinien - Director's pet, same as Graha and Alisaie especially if Alphi dies.
      0% Tataru - She's the only one who pays the bills to keep the lights on in the Rising Stones.

    A Scion in name only (B team):
    • 50% Krile- unless they develop her character more, she's likely to die due to being the catalyst for the Resonant. She's not even on the Endwalker poster. If she lives, moves to A team.
    Some of the other B team members might bite it as well (Riol,Alianne,etc.).

    Nation Leaders:
    • 50% Raubahn - Gets owned by Zenos since they didn't get to fight in SB.
      40% Aymeric - I could see a sacrifice to save the WOL, but highly unlikely.
      40% Fourchenant - Spills the beans on all of the secrets. Dies saving wife and the kids for redemption maybe.
      25% Kan-E-Senna/Merlwyb - Maybe, but not enough evidence besides the new side stories.
      25% Hien - Gets saved by Yugiri during a battle with Zenos.
      10% Lyse - (Had to edit post because I forgot about Lyse, so did the devs) Saved by Raubahn.
      0% Nanamo - Ain't going nowhere near the fight. Will somehow get caught up in trouble though.

    Side Characters:
    • 75% Yugiri - Rematch with Zenos, dies to save Hien.
      50% Gosetsu - Dies protecting Yugiri or Hien in battle before Zenos.
      50% Fortemps Family - I got a nasty feeling Artoriel is going to bite it, having Emmanulien to take over the family.
      50% Lucia - Dies to save Aymeric in battle.
      40% Pipin - Could die saving his father or Nanamo.
      30% Fordola - Could die in place of Krile. Moves from B team to A team post 6.0.
      0% Arenvald - Professor X baby! New Minfilia. Same as Fordola.

    Villans/Anti-Heroes:
    • 100% Fandaniel - Merges with something or other and dies a pathetic Asahi death again.
      100% Zodiark/Hydaelyn - Merge to form Ultimate bad. Final Boss. Reveal Zeromus (posing as an Ascian, my bet is on Pashtarot) was behind the Sound. BAM, cue credits and post-6.0 story.
      50% Zenos - This can go either way. He either goes full villan or turns coat to help us as our "friend." I'm leaning more to the former unless Emet's secret comes out to play.
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    Last edited by DaemonInazuma; 10-27-2021 at 04:32 AM.

  8. #28
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    Ryuma Shinmon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaemonInazuma View Post
    A Scion in name only (B team):
    • 50% Krile- unless they develop her character more, she's likely to die due to being the catalyst for the Resonant. She's not even on the Endwalker poster. If she lives, moves to A team.
    Praying with all my heart and manifesting that Krile becomes extremely relevant in Endwalker. Im convinced Krile is the Scions "Biggest Loser".

    Eureka talks about it but people don't really care for Eureka. Krile is implied to have Survivor's Guilt after the Isle of Val incident and is prone to blaming herself when things go out of control even if realistically no one could truly blame her for it happening. (I wouldn't be surprised if she harbors some feelings of guilt for getting captured and allowing Zenos to become a resonant even though none of it was her fault)

    The reason I went after the Stormblood relic was purely so I could see more Krile and locking one of her stories behind Eureka was a huge injustice. So please Ishikawa do my girl Krile some justice!
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  9. #29
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    As a few others have said, I'm thinking it'll more be a case of characters being retired than outright dying. I do think we'll see a fairly substantial refresh of the Scions.

    I can see Alphi ending up in Sharlayan as a permanent member of the Forum to represent Eorzea and the outside world.
    I can see YShtola taking Matoya's place. Matoya may end up sacrificing her remaining life to return YShtola's sight/aether, or maybe YShtola will just end up retiring partially because of her "condition."
    I can see Thancred leaving his life of adventure and maybe even ending up returning to The First in some way to go back to Ryne and Gaia.
    Tataru is Tataru.

    I'd see Ali, Estinien and Graha sticking with us as the standard adventuring party, to be joined by Fordola as the resident tank. Arenvald will work as a leader/organizer similar to the role Minfilia used to play (and I really, really hope they don't do something stupid like have Cid make him a flying wheelchair or new legs or something. Just let him still be a leader even with his injury)

    As much as I'd love to see Graha bite the big one, he's clearly not going anywhere.. sadly.

    I really don't know what they'll do with Urianger and Krile. Neither really seems to have a place moving forward unless they give them more to do. I'd love to see Krile essentially take over for YShtola and Urianger as the active intelligence source in the adventuring party but I don't really feel confident in that as a prediction.

    If I do see anyone in the main cast dying, it would be Urianger, Krile or Thancred. Thancred especially could go either way, a proper retirement or taking the bullet for someone.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    I can see Alphi ending up in Sharlayan as a permanent member of the Forum to represent Eorzea and the outside world.
    This is actually on my wish-list for the .1-.5 patches. I'd like a Sharlayan election arc where we help Alphinaud secure his seat on the forum.
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