Healer Queues are going to be different?

[SweetPete]

Every expansion people rush to play the new jobs. Give it a few weeks most will go back to their main jobs. There will still be a hefty amount of Whm and Ast players. Healer queues will be fine.

[PondHollow]

I believe he was talking about only Raidfinder. The same way it won't put 3 melee in a party for high-end content, it won't put 2 shield healers.

Only JP servers use raidfinder, so it's not relevant to most of us here.

[NorthernLadMSP]

What's worse is enforcing this Dichotomy when it pretty much doesn't exist.

Pure healers have shields, shield healers have regens.

What's the damn point of separating them now?

Exactly. Proves they have no clue what they're doing in regard to healers.

[Imora]

I believe he was talking about only Raidfinder. The same way it won't put 3 melee in a party for high-end content, it won't put 2 shield healers.

Only JP servers use raidfinder, so it's not relevant to most of us here.

I distinctly recall using it in HW but not for savages. Is my memory shot? When it it become high end only?

Hm. *scratches head*

[Irenia]

I distinctly recall using it in HW but not for savages. Is my memory shot? When it it become high end only?

Hm. *scratches head*

The most recent extreme will be in there too.

I remember using Raid Finder to pug Sophia EX, because it was in an interesting position where we had the Raid Finder, but the cross server DF wasn't a thing yet.

[HyperiusUltima]

I'm pretty sure a majority of players are still going to creep over to Reaper, especially with how intriguing its play was when showcased on the LL stream. I won't expect a whole ton of the Healer Playerbase to jump straight to SGE and flood the queues(and thus force a Tank reliance) but I expect mostly still much of the same.

As for the dichotomy issue people are talking about, separating them has to have reason for it, and it's probably something they've altered within the kits themselves to force them into this position alongside the stat squish they did. We'll need to see what it all is on the 13th for a more accurate judgement on separating into Pure and Shield Healers.

[KDSilver]

I bet they define pure(regen) and Barrier Healer if:

- You have a ST GCD Regen/Aoe GCD Regen
- You have a ST GCD Shield/Aoe GCD Shield

And... that's all.
Yeah. That the main biggest difference. These 2 GCD spammable heals.

Which is of course extremly ridiculous.

[Hysterior]

That's also why I think I will level WHM first.
I think a lot of people will want to try Sage from the get go so it should be easier to get spots as WHM/AST.
(+ parties will probably need at least one healer that knows their job while Sages are learning haha)

Edit:
Feels bad for SCH though :/

[Rongway]

That's also why I think I will level WHM first.
I think a lot of people will want to try Sage from the get go so it should be easier to get spots as WHM/AST.

Nobody's going to be using the Raid Finder, so it won't matter. Play Sage if you want to play Sage. The DF will match SGE+SGE or SGE+SCH in all the story trials if it needs to because the Duty Finder doesn't care about regens vs shields.

[Hysterior]

Nobody's going to be using the Raid Finder, so it won't matter. Play Sage if you want to play Sage. The DF will match SGE+SGE or SGE+SCH in all the story trials if it needs to because the Duty Finder doesn't care about regens vs shields.

DF doesn't really matter but PF does.
Pretty sure most parties on PF will ask one of each and I am pretty confident the "Pure" healer will be the slot on demand.