Maining a job you don't find the class fantasy particularly appealing?

[Rayne6665]

Ever since i played Ninja, i was having fun learning the class but got attacked by elites and veterans in alliance raids for my little mistake so i stopped playing it lmfao why cant i have fun while learning and not get attacked by party members? I know blah blah blah trick attack blah blah blah i get it. but i main Bard anyways cus i love bows .

[Nishira]

I think I understand. From the little I’ve observed so far, classes all have their own sort of flow and some things will feel great gameplay wise but not necessarily click aesthetically. Personally I’d say gameplay trumps aesthetics if you have to choose, because gameplay that clicks for you is deeply satisfying in its own way. It’s one of the reasons I’ll dabble in most of the classes over time I think, which is not something I expected beforehand. I usually play one class, two max. But I’m actually curious how the different classes/jobs feel even if the appearance of it doesn’t do it for me. I have to say I really enjoy WHM so far, I started with that and it’ll be the one that gets to 80 guaranteed so in that sense I experience no dilemma. Even if most of my job quests seemingly involve talking to a tree

But like others said, maybe experiment with different classes, or mog yourself into a rogue and ignore the ninja tag. Maybe create a backstory which explains how and why your rogue learned some ninja moves. Even if you have no intention at all to roleplay or share it with others, it can create a different feeling around your character and abilities.

[Drkdays]

Playing and gearing and glam farming and loving on DRG because I'm actually prepping for Reaper.


Bleh. Like dating the lady you like's sister just so you can spend time with her.

[Kozh]

Hmmm it depends, but as for me, the aesthetic matters more. Ninja is the first dps I leveled, I like the fast paced playstyle and have no trouble with remembering mudra at all. All in all, I like how it plays. Yet at the same time I was let down by the fact rogue turns into ninja and I dislike the job aesthetic, from glams to the skills. So in the end I change my dps mains into rdm.

[MikkoAkure]

Because, literally, they are mutually exclusive. Either a Ninja really is 'doing it for you' and you have had "the most fun [you've] had in this game", or it isn't.

They're not necessarily mutually exclusive and you shouldn't police how people have fun with things.

You can still like the gameplay of a game but hate the story or the other way around for example. In his case, if you read the OP, he loves the fast-paced gameplay but doesn't like the theming and that's what this whole thread is about.


To the OP, just to be different from others, I've made pirate/rogue NIN glams or ones where I'm wearing a knee-length dress and hide the daggers that then come out when I go into combat. Glams can help you get into a class or change things up.

As far as the question itself, I love how fast-paced bard is, but I'm not a fan of the mix of bard and archer. It's always felt weird to me and I never understood why they took that angle with it. On the opposite end of things, I LOVE the theming of astrologian but the gameplay feels a bit disjointed and erratic and I often lose track of pulling cards or I get lost in the card-pulling minigame and forget to heal.

[kaynide]

Myself I main Paladin or white mage, but for the longest time I wanted to main dragoon.

It is just the rotation feels clunky compared to others, like samurai. There is the eye timer you have to pop, then maintain, then weave abilities to open the eyes for what, a dps burst phase that feels hard to plan out since if you lose the eye timer, you start all over. It used to need 3 eyes to even get that burst phase…
It would be so much better if they just removed blood of the dragon and/or didn’t have “eye loss”. Or had some other means of charging the eye gauge not tied to jumps.

Samurai is just 3 sets of moves, and a bar you charge up that doesn’t go away unless you use it.

Of course I’m sure it would become much easier if I played it a lot more..and maybe that long string of moves to memorize is part of the appeal, but it just doesn’t do it for me.

I can definitely feel this with Paladin but sort of in reverse. I've always loved the concept of paladins, and I've always been a fan of sword and board "styles," but I just can't get into the way paladin's play. The low level play actually felt pretty good but once you start getting into your magic phase it just lost me. Something about that just feels so clunky and, frankly, ugly to me visually. I love the way it looks in the EW job trailer now but I just don't know if it will "feel" better to me. Right now if I tank, I much prefer gunbreaker (which, ironically, I love the feel of playing but just like but not love the visuals of).

So, yeah, love the concept of Paladin but don't really like the way FF14 Paladin feels to actually play.

Yeah- agreed there. I mean, I like the option of having some stuff like clemency, but the actual damaging PLD spells feel out of place- even the EW PLD abilities feel a little too over the top for what I typically envision for PLD.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Pretty much all my healers(all jobs really) are glamoured for armor. (I like the fantasy of a PLD like melee healer, and FF14 would never allow a healer to not be a typical dress caster.)
Back in 3.0 I played DRK, but wanted a more traditional Knight look. So my glamours were less "Darkish".
Similar with my WAR, I hate Axes, and Hammers, so the moment the scythe was available for glamour, I used it.

"Job identity" and what I want, will never work in FF14, so im glad i at least have some limited glamour to try and make me a bit more happy playing jobs.

[Xirean]

If the appearance of the class bothers you, then there are always glamours to look completely different. Sure you can't change what the abilities look like though.

That part is actually a downside for me about Ninja; I really wish that Rogue was allowed to also be a class, because Rogue is a much more fun fantasy to me than a Ninja. As the expansions have come the job has become a lot more like what you would see in Naruto which isn't bad at all, but I do wish there was an alternative.

[Shougun]

In ARR I used SMN a lot, it was fun to play- I was rather upset about how far they departed from the epic class fantasy of the job (in respect to FF specifically, "it's okay compared to some other mmo" is not the standard I'm /ever/ going to put a FF smn to- this is a freaking FF smn- my standards are on the moon and they're not going any lower lol). It did bother me, but the job was super useful (and it was fun to play)- so I did it anyways. Pinnacle sad class fantasy me was the AF 50 with the silly horn but no epic cool spells, just casting bio and stuff lol (yes I know the horn is a classic SMN attire, but it always reminds me of that pink unicorn meme picture- it's just silly ).

At this point though all the jobs I main because I like playing them is also because I think their class fantasy is fun (SMN is no longer the dead well beaten horse that is ARR's, and after EW it's going to be a billion yalms away from ARR), and I play them all because they're all different kinds of fun. Though I just feel particularly silly as SCH (we'll still win but I don't feel it's as smooth a rise as when I play AST / WHM), and I don't really get into the visuals of that job.

[Yeol]

I like DRK and PLD most out of the tanks. Not for their gameplay or glamour, but for their lore. They are polar opposites, but they both strive for the same goal, justice.