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    Citation Envoyé par Krotoan Voir le message
    I still don't think they would just adjust values and call it a day though. It'd have to run through some QC at least to make sure textures don't get warped weirdly or have gaps on at the very least the base models for different gear.

    Again, not opposed to the idea, but it's probably more than a bit of work.
    But isn't the height scaling in XIV an actual 1:1 proportion ratio with everything?

    So, scaling wouldn't really change how gear is displayed regardless. The only issue I could see would be extreme up scaling causing the texture pixels to be even more visible, but doubtful that would be an issue for a 10% increase.
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    Citation Envoyé par Raikai Voir le message
    But isn't the height scaling in XIV an actual 1:1 proportion ratio with everything?

    So, scaling wouldn't really change how gear is displayed regardless. The only issue I could see would be extreme up scaling causing the texture pixels to be even more visible, but doubtful that would be an issue for a 10% increase.
    Yeah there is no advanced deformation happening when you make your character shorter or taller.
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    Tomboy Outback
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    Citation Envoyé par Abriael Voir le message
    And that's why you don't make massive variations. I don't think it's farfetched to say that animations would scale fine 4 inches up or down, since most are in common with races much taller/shorter already.
    That doesn't matter since each race uses their own skeleton scale so if you make a much miqote larger you're gonna start clipping into chairs pretty damn fast, I'm all for pushing it to the limits of the system but there are limits.
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    Yes, more options! Have my bump ^^
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    You're really overestimating the depth of the height system, it literally just takes the whole model and either makes it smaller or bigger, no accounting for proportions or anything. It's a problem with some races where if they're too far from their intended height they just look wrong, either their head ends up being too small (Elezen, Roegadyn) or they look like weird bobble heads (aka why female Au Ra can never be made as tall as their male counterparts without redesigning them first)

    ... but back on topic, yeah, I'm all for expanding the height range a bit more! Head size is (again) the limiting factor, but as you can see here there's still plenty of leeway

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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Citation Envoyé par Tsiron Voir le message
    You're really overestimating the depth of the height system, it literally just takes the whole model and either makes it smaller or bigger, no accounting for proportions or anything. It's a problem with some races where if they're too far from their intended height they just look wrong, either their head ends up being too small (Elezen, Roegadyn) or they look like weird bobble heads (aka why female Au Ra can never be made as tall as their male counterparts without redesigning them first)
    I am pretty sure there is a tall female au ra in Shisui dungeon, the one named Captain but overall no much to say on technical aspects
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    There is, yeah, but unfortunately it's probably a case of "make enemies bigger for visibility" than anything. Apparently mob size was a thing they decided they had to fix early on, and the reason we're stuck with kobolds the size of cows now (as just one example)...
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    Citation Envoyé par Tsiron Voir le message
    There is, yeah, but unfortunately it's probably a case of "make enemies bigger for visibility" than anything. Apparently mob size was a thing they decided they had to fix early on, and the reason we're stuck with kobolds the size of cows now (as just one example)...
    I feel like that's an issue across a lot of games - when you actually stop and look at creatures standing next to your character, you realise that they're a lot bigger than you assumed they were.

    I wonder if it's a perspective trick and your brain processes your concept of their size relative to the real you - perceiving them as a small object a few metres away on the other side of the "window" (TV screen) rather than comparing them to your character.

    And yes, some of the NPC enemies get scaled up for visibility but if you stop and look at them, they're huge.
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    My female Au'ra needs a height boost.
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    Arya Diavolos
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    6 foot tall lalafell or riot
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