Thancred's Handicap Solution

[ItMe]

He can no longer manipulate aether himself, Gunbreaker is probably the only job where someone else can do the manipulating of aether ahead of time for you and the end user just has to remember which cartridges are which and trigger the effects when needed.

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Gunbreaker is sort of like a DnD Wizard if you think about it, just with a gunblade and cartridges instead of a spellbook and spells. It's the same preparing abilities ahead of time and triggering them when needed sort of magic though.

Been a bit but I'm pretty sure WAR doesnt use aether?

It isn't a poetic body guard job he could take up before taking charge of Ryne. Nor a job that would allow for their symbiotic relationship.
But... lore wise it seems like it would have been the better choice, though the less totally appropriate one.



(If only he'd met a mentor from the east that could teach him how to go from rogue to Ninja he wouldn't have needed to change. After all, the Nin storyline establishes they don't use aether.)

[Kozh]

Problem is that garlean gunblades are considered a cheap copy. Their advantage lies on being easy to mass make.

Its similar to the lasguns of the imperial guard in 40k: Might not the best weapons but they are reliable enough and cheap

Can be prevented by making a custom garlean gunblade. And speaking of ceruleum, I don't think a gunblade use that much. If he asked, I'm pretty sure the city state leaders will supply him with a lifetime of ceruleum for his gunblade.

Don't worry about it.
If they want Thancred to do fine with his Gunbreaking abilities they will surely come up with a solution that is explained in a single line of dialogue.
ShB showed us they have no qualms about coming up with any excuse to fix things for coolness or fanservice sake.

Now I'm curious, do you mind giving us examples? Admittedly, I may have forgotten a lot of things in ShB :/

[Tsiron]

I'd assumed most if not all the Jobs we can play as involved using Aether. Certainly got brought up a lot whenever people asked for playable Garleans lol

[MikkoAkure]

Been a bit but I'm pretty sure WAR doesnt use aether?

It isn't a poetic body guard job he could take up before taking charge of Ryne. Nor a job that would allow for their symbiotic relationship.
But... lore wise it seems like it would have been the better choice, though the less totally appropriate one.



(If only he'd met a mentor from the east that could teach him how to go from rogue to Ninja he wouldn't have needed to change. After all, the Nin storyline establishes they don't use aether.)

Warrior's Inner Beast is probably aether, considering the warrior armor is specifically magicked to make it both call forth and control the Inner Beast.

Where does the NIN storyline say they don't use aether? The lore book specifically calls ninjas out for using aether.

"By manipulating the aether present in heaven (ten), earth (chi), and man (jin), and further combining their effects in predetermined sequences, the shinobi is capable of manifesting an impressive array of arcane phenomena."

[lezard21]

The solution would be for them to call a friend from Baldesion to bring a Re-Aetherification Plot Device to restore Thancred's aether. Or mention the problem to G'raha Tia for him to invent a solution an Allagan solution. It would be consistent with the story.

[ItMe]

Warrior's Inner Beast is probably aether, considering the warrior armor is specifically magicked to make it both call forth and control the Inner Beast.

Where does the NIN storyline say they don't use aether? The lore book specifically calls ninjas out for using aether.

[double checks Nin questline]
Oh hey, you're right.
Sorry, I was mistaken.

I misrembered this line to say that the energies Ninjas use is similar to aether, and not that we both have 2 different understandings of the same everpresent magical energy.
Err... that he was saying we had similar energies and not that we had similar understanding of the same one.
(If that makes sense)

[Poporito_Popoto]

Let's also add Garlean doesn't just stop with gunswords. They already have used from the higher figures gunhalberd, gunwrist, gunhammer so generally speaking anything that you can attach some manner of ranged firearm in something works although the less trained and suitable soldiers won't be good at wielding them

*cough*gunscythe*cough*

[ItMe]

*cough*gunscythe*cough*

YOOOOOOO!!
That idea is jrpg as hell in all the best ways~

[HollowedDoll]

The real question is why did Thancred take up GNB in the first place when it used a weapon he was incapable of maintaining by himself?

Good question but I think it's implied the other hrothgar dude trained him during SB?

[Tsiron]

Correct, the Hrothgar Thancred trained under is introduced in the level 80 GNB quest. Later shows up in Bozja, too.

He explains he took up the gunblade in ShB for its defensive capabilities (to keep Ryne safe) and, GNB being the "lightest" Tank, it's not too outlandish a transition imo